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Senators Want To Hold The Open Internet Hostage, Demand Zuckerberg Write The Ransom Note

from the who-has-time-for-all-this-nonsense? dept

Not this shit again.

A bipartisan group of the most anti-internet Senators around have released their latest version of a plan to “sunset Section 230.” We went over this last year when they floated the same idea: they have no actual plan for how to make sure the open internet can continue. Instead, their “plan” is to put a gun to the head of the open internet and say they’re going to shoot it… unless Meta gives them a different alternative. Let’s bring back Eric Goldman’s meme:

There is no plan for how to protect speech on the internet. There’s just hostage-taking. And remarkably, the hostage-takers are saying the quiet part out loud. Here’s Senator Dick Durbin’s comment on releasing this bill:

Children are being exploited and abused because Big Tech consistently prioritizes profits over people. Enough is enough. Sunsetting Section 230 will force Big Tech to come to the table take ownership over the harms it has wrought. And if Big Tech doesn’t, this bill will open the courtroom to victims of its platforms. Parents have been begging Congress to step in, and it’s time we do so. I’m proud to partner with Senator Graham on this effort, and we will push for it to become law,” said Durbin.

Read that bolded part again. Durbin is admitting—in a press release, for the record—that he wants Big Tech to write internet policy. He’s threatening to blow up the legal framework that allows everyday people to speak online unless Mark Zuckerberg comes to his office and tells him what laws to pass. This is Congress openly abdicating its responsibility to govern in favor of letting a handful of tech CEOs do it instead.

The problem? The people who benefit from Section 230 aren’t the big tech CEOs. They’re you. They’re me. They’re every small forum, every Discord server, every newsletter with comments, every community space online where people can actually talk to each other without first getting permission from a building full of lawyers.

They want “big tech” to come to the table, even though (as we’ve explained over and over and over again) the damage from repealing 230 is not to “big tech.” Hell, Meta has been calling for the removal of Section 230 for years.

Why? Because Meta (unlike Durbin) knows exactly what every 230 expert has been saying for years: its main benefit has fuck all to do with “big tech” and is very much about protecting you, me, and the everyday users of the internet, creating smaller spaces where they can speak, interact, build community and more.

Repealing Section 230 doesn’t hurt Meta at all. Because if you get rid of Section 230, Meta can afford the lawsuits. They have a building full of lawyers they’re already paying. They can pay them to take on the various lawsuits and win. Why will they win? Because the First Amendment is what actually protects most of the speech these dipshit Senators are mad about.

But winning on First Amendment grounds probably costs between $2 million and $5 million. Winning on 230 grounds happens at an earlier stage with much less work, and probably costs $100k. A small company can survive a few $100k lawsuits. But a few $5 million lawsuits puts them out of business.

We already know this. We can see it with the DMCA, which was always weaker than Section 230. A decade and a half ago, Veoh was poised to be a big competitor to YouTube. But it got sued. It won the lawsuit… but went out of business anyway, because the legal fees killed it before it won. And now YouTube dominates the space.

When you weaken intermediary protection laws, you help the big tech providers.

Separately, notice Durbin’s phrasing about children being exploited. Can some reporter please ask Dick Durbin to explain how removing Section 230 protects children? He won’t be able to answer, because it won’t help. Or maybe he’ll punt to Senator Graham, whose press release at least attempts an answer:

“Giant social media platforms are unregulated, immune from lawsuits and are making billions of dollars in advertising revenue off some of the most unsavory content and criminal activity imaginable. It is past time to allow those who have been harmed by these behemoths to have their day in court,” said Graham.

Day in court… for what? Most “unsavory content” is constitutionally protected speech. The rap sheet is mostly First-Amendment activity—Section-230 just spares hosting it; repeal means litigating over legal speech, one plaintiff at a time.

As for criminal activity, well, that’s a law enforcement issue, not related to Section 230. If you don’t think that criminal activity is being properly policed online, maybe that’s something you should focus on?

Section 230 gives companies the freedom to make changes to protect children. That was the entire point of it. Literally, Chris Cox and Ron Wyden wanted a structure that would create incentives for platforms to be able to protect their users (including children!) without having to face legal liability for any little mistake.

If you take away Section 230, you actually tie the hands of companies trying to protect children. Because, now, every single thing they do to try to make their site safer opens them up to legal liability. That means you no longer have trust & safety or child safety experts making decisions about what’s best: you have lawyers. Lawyers who just want to protect companies from liability.

So, what will they do? They’ll do the thing that won’t protect children (which is risky), the thing that avoids liability, which tends to be to putting your head in the sand. Avoiding knowledge gets you out of these lawsuits, because under existing distributor liability concepts, knowledge is key to holding a distributor liable.

The only benefits to killing Section 230 are (1) to the biggest tech companies who wipe out competitors, (2) to the trial lawyers who plan to get rich suing the biggest tech companies, and (3) to Donald Trump, who can use the new rules to put even more pressure on the internet to suppress speech he doesn’t like.

I know for a fact that Senator Wyden has tried to explain this to his colleagues in the Senate, and they just refuse to listen.

Reminding everyone for no particular reason that Section 230 is one of the last things standing between free speech online and Trump having control over everything you see and say on the internet

Senator Ron Wyden (@wyden.senate.gov) 2025-12-18T22:28:29.307Z

This is exactly why BestNetTech needs your support. When the most powerful people in government are ignoring experts and pushing legislation based on lies, someone needs to keep explaining what’s actually happening. We’ve been doing that for over 25 years, and we’re going to keep doing it—but we need your help to make sure that continues.

Meanwhile, the actual users of the open internet—and the children Durbin claims to be protecting—come out worse off. Senator Durbin and his cosponsors (Senators Graham, Grassley, Whitehouse, Hawley, Klobuchar, Blackburn, Blumenthal, Moody, and Welch) know all this. They’ve been told all of this. Sometimes by Senator Wyden himself. But all of them (with the possible exception of Welch who I don’t know as much about) have a long and well-known history of simply hating the fact that the open internet exists.

The bill isn’t child protection, and it sure isn’t tech regulation. It’s a suicide pact drafted by people who’ve always despised an internet they don’t control. Zuckerberg gets handed the pen; we get handed the bill—and the bullet.

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ECA (profile) says:

I would still like a regulation against Lie and those who DONT read.regs

Please.

Random:
“creator Jay Ward cleverly packed the show with adult political satire and double entendres that often skirted NBC’s censors, leading to many episodes being delayed or subtly altered, particularly for its political humor and jokes about sponsors (like the infamous Thanksgiving peacock cooking gag), making it one of the most self-censored or subversively tricky shows for network standards of the 1960s”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or_wd0b_DTQ

When I was younger it was kinda strange how Broadcast channels Kept killing things that we watched
Between the Comics code and the FCC Jumping in with THEIR codes. There were Many ways for things to be restricted.
From the wars with Vietnam and Korea, they didnt want the truth of the Problems, to Brighten our days.
It was always interesting that Larger Cities had more channels and Different programs, mostly.

Arnt we Supposed to be a Informed Citizenry??
It took YEARS for some of the video’s and Pictures of WTH was going on and WHAT we were doing was shown to us. And still it wasnt Everything.
The one thats still in my mind is a child Running while on fire, then a Naked Child, after being Covered with ??? Stripped of the Chemicals in the clothing.
For all the things they didnt show us we had commercial TRYING to tell us to DRINK MORE MILK, WHERE’s the BEEF, And so many more. AND many of them Backed by the USA Food and drug, as Helping them made money. Even After the Corps Showed them FAKE DATA.

Try this one, IF you didnt know, and ASK WHY??
“”Forever chemicals,” or PFAS, are contaminating farms primarily through sewage sludge (biosolids) used as fertilizer and sometimes via PFAS-containing pesticides, leading to buildup in soil, water, crops, and livestock, causing severe health risks and financial ruin for farmers, with the chemicals entering the food chain and posing risks to consumers. ”

WHAT the hell do we need PFAS in our farming FOR?? I think its to BURY the problem, AFTER THE FACT that they knew the problem YEARS ago, “Non Stick coatings”. And DIDNT STOP it back then.

Good Luck folks, its going to be a HARD ride.

Anonymous Coward says:

The cosponsors of the sunset bill are calling on Senate leadership

the cosponsors of the bill are calling on Republican and Democrat leadership alike – to allow a week in February 2026 be dedicated to advancing legislation that protects children from online threats and tackling the Section 230 crisis once and for all. Source : https://x.com/i/status/2002087427092238776 Do you think that Senate leadership source do you think that Republican and Democrat leadership will respond favorable ?

ECA (profile) says:

Re: Any site that takes Opinions from Citizens

Or Forwards/Aggregates News for other sites, can be Sued But its not Just them. Its the Site creater, the Server farm and the TOP dogs like Amazon, Google, America Online, the Top sections AND the owners..
They want the ability to Sue and make money and Control information.
Trump “Sue happy v 3.0 Attitude.

Go lookup and find the Rules of Opinion sections and Classified, from Newspapers. And Why you cant Sue them.
Go look up Lawsuits for “60 minutes” And Why they DONT some NEWS articles. UNTIL they have TONS AND TONS of facts and truth.

Arianity (profile) says:

Days like today make me feel like we’re living in a simulation meant to troll me. You literally could not pick a worse time to fuck up 230.

The people who benefit from Section 230 aren’t the big tech CEOs. They’re you.

It’s both. There’s a reason Meta is the only one calling for this. Google/Twitter/Microsoft/Netchoice? pro-230. Meta is the (recently flopped) exception.(nice hook by the way). I continue to think Meta is playing a very dangerous game here. $2-5million is still death by a million cuts, best case scenario. And god forbid they lose a defamation case and get Prodigy’d, or get an unsympathetic jury. Most cases is not good enough, all it takes is one bad case to fuck over even Meta.

As for criminal activity, well, that’s a law enforcement issue, not related to Section 230.

Criminal activity can incur civil liability (Doe v Myspace, Doe v Backpage, etc. More famously, stuff like OJ). This is what the FOSTA amendment (230(e)(5)(a)) to 230 was about. But repealing 230 is a stupid way to handle that.

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benjamin klein says:

The cosponsors of the sunset bill are calling on Senate leadership -

the cosponsors of the bill are calling on Republican and Democrat leadership alike – to allow a week in February 2026 be dedicated to advancing legislation that protects children from online threats and tackling the Section 230 crisis once and for all. Source : https://x.com/i/status/2002087427092238776 Do you think that Senate leadership source do you think that Republican and Democrat leadership will respond favorably ?

Arianity (profile) says:

Re:

Could any news site survive being liable for the comments of repeated bad faith actors without having to moderate and intervene on absolutely every comment made?

Not in a good way. The options that don’t involve moderating every comment would be removing the comment section entirely, or not moderating it at all. Even if courts cut back on Prodigy, they’d still have to remove things after notice. All four options would be bad.

Realistically no news site would bother to have a comment section anymore. Assuming no Hail Mary from SCOTUS, anyway.

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MrWilson (profile) says:

Re:

The big media companies would love to do away with comment sections. They’ve been trying to turn the internet back in cable and broadcast television where they get to control the programming and narratives and the population is just a passive audience paying for products and services without interruptions or distractions or critical analysis.

Anonymous Coward says:

Ending Section 230 would empower Big Law and kill smaller competitors

I must admit Mike, I may not agree with everything on this site verbatim (or any other site for that matter) but your coverage on this topic alone and the broader topic of how legal liability disparately affects smaller competitors in the tech space has been enough to make me a regular here. The other stuff on corruption in the current admin is further icing on the cake.

This gem right here…

Repealing Section 230 doesn’t hurt Meta at all. Because if you get rid of Section 230, Meta can afford the lawsuits. They have a building full of lawyers they’re already paying. They can pay them to take on the various lawsuits and win. Why will they win? Because the First Amendment is what actually protects most of the speech these dipshit Senators are mad about.

But winning on First Amendment grounds probably costs between $2 million and $5 million. Winning on 230 grounds happens at an earlier stage with much less work, and probably costs $100k. A small company can survive a few $100k lawsuits. But a few $5 million lawsuits puts them out of business.

…is something I’m screenshotting and passing around after I post this comment.

Those numbers really drive home what’s at stake here and why the First Amendment alone isn’t enough to protect speech online. Not when lawyers want to enrich themselves in a legal environment where lawsuits would be more prevalent.

The press release for this bill practically admits that it would only benefit lawyers at the expense of everyone else. They just hope people don’t notice that a world with more lawsuits against tech companies (for First Amendment-protected activity!) would mean open season on small sites with few legal resources.

I’ve looked at the list of organizations supporting this bill, and I’ll be forwarding this article to some of the ones I’m most familiar with to see if they actually understand what their doing.

Arianity (profile) says:

Re:

I’ve looked at the list of organizations supporting this bill, and I’ll be forwarding this article to some of the ones I’m most familiar with to see if they actually understand what their doing.

If you have the time, I would highly recommend contacting your Congresspeople, as a part of that. It really matters, even for the bad ones.

Anonymous Coward says:

If sites start blocking usa users you could setup you own encrypted relay outside the united states

If one long desired road to Russia via Alaska and thr diomedes ever gets built one could buy a home in that part of russia and set up their own vpn there

Just like with car manufacturers who want to make everything subscription. If that road should ever be built, one could drive to Russia and have Russian hackers circumvent that. American law does not apply in Russia and I think putin will gladly allow that is a big f you to the united states.

American law would have no jurisdiction over a shop in Russia that did hack a car to circumvent that.

Maureen Flatley says:

Efforts to repeal Sec. 230

In decades of watching Congress do or attempt to do dumb things this may be in a class by itself. Nothing has revealed more clearly how important policy is often predicated on laziness and complete ignorance. The notion that it is Dick Durbin is pushing this foolishness is even more astounding. Thank God he’s retiring. But every single staffer fostering this horrid idea should be fired.

That One Guy (profile) says:

'Our bill will force Big Fox to the table to discuss chicken-coop safety!'

Trying to claim that this is an effort to force ‘Big Tech’ to the table to negotiate is a world-class sick joke because more than any others they are the ones that stand to benefit from 230’s repeal.

Whether they realize it or not the politicians pushing laws like this are dancing entirely to ‘Big Tech’s’ tune and doing exactly what they want the politicians to do like good little puppets.

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