Republican Lawmakers Want To Replace The Community Standard For Obscenity With *Their* Own Standard
from the we'll-decide-what-adults-can-access dept
They may claim they care about the children, but the Republican push for age verification laws, book bans, and the general censorship of anything not specifically straight and (preferably) white is all about preventing adults from accessing content these lawmakers don’t personally care for. The kids are merely useful leverage for legislators pushing for the codification of their particular moral standards.
For no real reason at all other than their desire to control what content others can access, two Republican Congress members have decided it’s time to enact a federal obscenity standard, as Elizabeth Nolan Brown reports for Reason:
Sen. Mike Lee (R–Utah) wants to redefine obscenity in a way that could render all sorts of legal sexual content illegal. His proposal would make the definition of obscenity so broad that it could ban even the most mild pornography, and possibly even more.
Lee and Rep. Mary Miller (R–Ill.), who introduced a companion bill in the House, have made no secret of the fact that the Interstate Obscenity Definition Act (IODA) is intended to get porn off the internet. “Our bill updates the legal definition of obscenity for the internet age so this content can be taken down and its peddlers prosecuted,” Lee said as he introduced the legislation.
But his proposed definition of obscenity is “so broad” that the TV show Game of Thrones could fall under its purview, suggests Ricci Joy Levy, president and CEO of the Woodhull Freedom Foundation.
Senator Lee gives away part of the game in his statement. This isn’t about prosecuting actual obscenity cases. It’s all about whipping up a chilling effect that’s frigid enough to encourage plenty of self-censorship. It’s all stick and no carrot, crafted as broadly as possible in hopes of encouraging prosecutors to crack down on people engaged in protected speech to prevent their expression from reaching their intended audiences.
What the law would do is erase Supreme Court precedent. Since there’s no federal law defining obscenity, the Supreme Court has created what’s known as the Miller test — something that requires judges to consider not just the content, but the context and its possible value as protected expression. This law would eliminate the test and replace the community standard (what the “reasonable person” might think of the contested content) with whatever Mike Lee and the bill’s supporters think should be considered protected speech.
The Supreme Court’s obscenity test has three prongs the government must satisfy to pursue obscenity charges. This bill still keeps the prongs, but renders them mostly useless by declaring pretty much anything sexual to be criminally obscene.
[R]ather than requiring that something depict or describe sexual conduct in a “patently offensive” way in order to be considered obscene, Lee thinks basically all depictions of sexual conduct or erotic nudity could count as obscenity.
The other worrying aspect of Lee’s bill [PDF] is a paragraph that, at first, seems to have no bearing on the rest of the proposed law.
(b) OBSCENE OR HARASSING TELEPHONE CALLS IN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA OR IN INTERSTATE OR FOREIGN COMMUNICATIONS.—Section 223(a)(1)(A) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 223(a)(1)(A)) is amended, in the undesignated matter following clause (ii), 19 by striking ‘‘, with intent to abuse, threaten, or harass 20 another person’’.
Why is this tacked on to the end of an anti-porn bill? And why is it there solely to sever intent from a criminal act, which is the sort of thing that leads directly to abuse of these laws? Obviously, there’s a reason Mike Lee has added this clause to his bill, but it’s not exactly clear why he’s so interested in stripping criminal intent from a clause about “obscene or harassing telephone calls.”
But there’s a good chance it has something to do with preventing anyone — including adults — from accessing content Mike Lee would clearly like to ban. Here’s Nolan Brown, suggesting one possible reason for this addition to the bill:
All sorts of sex work that relies on video calls—whether via a dedicated web-camming platform or some other service—could potentially be banned by removing the requirement that “obscene” calls be harassing or abusive in order to be criminal.
The proposed change would possibly allow for targeting phone sex operators and dirty phone calls, too. While Lee’s revised definition of obscenity concerns visual depictions, not words, it still seems to allow for obscenity to exist in other contexts. In short, it defines all pornographic images as illegal obscenity, but it does not limit illegal obscenity to pornographic images.
That leaves room for phone calls that include sex talk to be labeled obscene even when everyone involved is a consenting adult.
That’s what happens when you strip intent from criminal laws. It means you can turn victimless, voluntary interactions into criminal acts. Harassment cases generally need a victim to instigate criminal proceedings. With this clause being rewritten, all the government needs to demonstrate is that an “obscene” communication took place, even if there was no victim and no one acting with criminal intent.
This isn’t Mike Lee’s first attempt to rewrite the obscenity standard in his own image. Lee tried this in 2022 and it went nowhere. But maybe he feels there’s a better chance of survival with Trump back in the White House and state legislatures all over the nation jumping on the censorship bandwagon, equally willing to ignore the Constitution and decades of Supreme Court precedent. Hopefully, this one will soon join his previous attempt in the dustbin of bad ideas. But even if it does, something equally stupid, pushed by someone equally stupid, will be ushered into existence to take its place.
Filed Under: 1st amendment, censorship, free speech, mary miller, mike lee, obscenity laws


Comments on “Republican Lawmakers Want To Replace The Community Standard For Obscenity With *Their* Own Standard”
Is imitating grabbing women by their orifice a “sexual conduct in a “patently offensive” way”?
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Non sequitur. This is about telecommunications and online content, not IRL conduct.
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I am not sure that is entirely a non sequitur. News reporting and general discussions are primarily consumed via telecommunications now. So it seems at least plausible under the current regime that they could use twist something like this to suppress coverage or even discussion of real life events that are even tangentially obscene. I am not normally a fan of slippery slope arguments, but some hills just seem to keep getting greased and some people seem to really want to get to the slop trough at the bottom.
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So all mentions of Trump saying it will have to be taken down as well.
I’m sure these nitwits would see that as a silver lining.
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Nah, it’s only obscenity when Democrats do stuff like that.
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If I’m honest, I don’t think grabbing women by their mouths is sexually offensive at all.
… Wouldn’t the Bible count as well?
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Yes, but actually no*.
*As soon as Repubs find a way to make an exception without it seeming like they’re singling out their own religion.
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They don’t bother trying to making it seem like they’re impartial anymore. They just exempt the bible outright.
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Should it be by their own standards? Yes.
Would it be by their own standards? No.
Those pushing ‘anti-violence’ and ‘anti-obscenity’ laws give away the game instantly as soon as someone points to the bible, as all of a sudden the moral paragons of virtue that were just trying to keep sex and violence out of the hands of kids have no problem whatever with a book that has plenty of both.
When existing as queer is seen as inherently sexual, no amount of “toning it down” or “hiding in the closet” will please those who would destroy queerness.
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This, exactly.
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We tried toning it down and sticking to our own spaces back in the day. They used public money to send men with guns into our spaces. Anyone who believes the end goal isn’t mass murder is a fool.
That Consitution Thing
Not to forget, the Good Old 1st Amendment.
–>This is why they have to pretend it’s about saving the precious little children. Because it’s a non-starter to say that adults must not be allowed to show and/or look at the sexyparts.
I’ve very slightly tempted to say that should be classified as child abuse.
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In a not-zero number of cases, people who use “think of the children” as a rallying cry for a cause often don’t give a shit about actual children. In some of those cases, such people might themselves be abusing children. I mean, exactly how many Catholic priests have railed against the sins of homosexuality and porn and whatnot before being revealed to have molested children?
There goes Chaucer
Something like “The Miller’s Tale” in the Canterbury Tales as an important snapshot of peasants’ linguistic idioms and mind sets would certainly “objectively” count as obscenity since it is intended to convey the kind of conversation expected of a crude person, in a caleidoscope of such images across a whole traveling company.
So there goes one of the most important pieces of syllabus of Middle English.
For obvious reasons, Chaucer did not include congresspeople in his relations, but one does wonder how much grace and forthrightness he’d have been willing to equip them with.
Do you think that Elizabeth Nolan Brown and others who write for Reason ever look at the comments section on their site, and wonder if they’re working at the wrong publication? Or that they’re on the wrong side?
Being a part of the libertarian political machine slamming progressive ideas and paving the way for turds like Trump to get elected, and then having your articles about the GOP and Trump destroying freedoms rife with commenters who agree with Trump? I’d honestly be questioning my life choices right now.
How does that work?
I thought the point of the Miller test was to get away from “I know it when I see it” and define obscenity in a way that was compatible with the court’s (itself largely asspulled) view of what the First Amendment would allow Congress to ban.
Obviously you can’t just have Congress arbitrarily override that definition and still expect to get away with banning whatever your new definition says. That would totally nullify the First Amendment.
So what does Lee (or whoever’s writing for Lee) actually expect to achieve? How will this play out in court? Is it really just an excuse to have the whole issue of the limits on what can be banned relitigated in courts that are more censorship-friendly than the Miller court?
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They expect to be able to ban legal speech(pornography) on the internet.
They don’t know and they don’t care. Well, until courts disagree with them.
Both have extremely low chances of passing according to govtrack.
Would this even make it past a court challenge? Let alone congress?
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It’s like all the shit they threw at Roe pre Dobbs, and all the shit they’re throwing at the church-state separation.
The Republicans understand what the Democrats don’t, or won’t:
Keep pushing.
Don’t sweat failure and ‘impossibility.’ Keep fucking pushing anyway, always, regardless.
It doesn’t matter if the pushes are doomed to fail. You’re still keeping the pressure up. You’re still energizing your loyals. You’re still flooding the surface and discovering whatever cracks, however small, that you can seep into and start opening up.
Kind of a pity, honestly.
If the GOP’s goals weren’t so cartoonishly fucking evil their determination would be inspirational.
The Republican party hates free speech. Exhibit #7,426,821
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One pirate IPTV service outside the United States would not have to follow this law.
One provider, with over 100,000 channels including about 4,400 porn channels, is located outside the United States, so they cannot be prosecuted in the United States.
TAKE IT DOWN has been signed into law. Is it gonna get challenged now, or do we have to watch half of the internet die first?
If it went through, how long before at least a subgroup begins pushing to make being unpatriotic obscene?
Why do I get the impression that calling a senator or congressional representative to complain about an upcoming bill would be considered harassment?
I’ll bet the bit about phone calls is actually to criminalize organized campaigns to call the offices of Representatives and Senators.
preventing adults from accessing content these lawmakers don’t personally care for.
NOPE.
Its temptation and Guilt. We say its about the Children but its About the Adults More then anything. We are Ashamed.
Strange fact, to figure out. When Women’s Rights passed. Women’s Accidents and Death rates DROPPED 25%. Tell that to those Who dont Like Divorce or Abortion.
All many men want is a sex Buddy and Beer.
The perverts are at it again...
Some people just cannot help but constantly think about porn and what adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms, they really should see a professional to help them with that unhealthy and perverse obsession of theirs…
Sen. Mike Lee (R–Utah) wants to redefine obscenity in a way that could render all sorts of legal sexual content illegal. His proposal would make the definition of obscenity so broad that it could ban even the most mild pornography, and possibly even more.
Of Utah you say… while I admittedly haven’t checked the stats lately so the rankings might be different these days when I did last check I’m pretty sure that if they used the ‘community standards’ rule for what counts as acceptable content then Utah’s would not be on the ‘anti-porn’ side of the equation.
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I remember the top searchs on pornhub coming out of Utah.
How about, once again, they fix their own shit before demanding we all uphold the morals they espouse but do not practice.
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Can only happen when they remove the RIGHT to Shoot the Idiot PEEKING in the window.
He’s Dangerous Ralf, Shooot HIM
Minitrue sources have reveled the draft on obscenity standard: