I think the most disgusting part of this story is how the mainstream media is just sensationalizing the story instead of actual reading the report and saying what BS it is. So much for responsible reporting.
What history books did you read. You think just because the laws were off the books, that stopped businesses from discriminating? Businesses only stopped when they started getting sued and taken to court. By the way, Jim Crow laws were only in the south. The rest of the country was quite happy to discriminate without laws to back them up. I live in Chicago, and discrimination was as bad here as in any southern state. And it only stopped when people were forced to stop discriminating by laws banning discrimination.
Actually, they would not have to make a cake with a hateful message. They would be fully within the law to refuse to make the cake, because they aren't discriminating based on race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation. It's where businesses discriminate against these specific groups is where they are violating the law. Should the bakery be allowed to refuse to make a cake for a wedding of a black man and white woman? Or for a muslin wedding?
Sorry, but you must have amnesia yourself. Read up on what racial discrimination really was. Society tolerated and supported racial discrimination. It took federal laws and tons of lawsuits to stop blatant discrimination. Are you really proposing we go back to the 1930's and let any sort of discrimination be legal again?
Chicago State has been a canker sore on Chicago for decades. Many presidents have been forced to resign, and it's used a major source of patronage. It's an embarrassment to Chicago. Of course it's on the South Side, where there is a desperate need for affordable, quality education. And the powers that be of course screw it up. Nobody screams about it because, you know, it's only the black population getting screwed. They ought to close it down and start from scratch.
Unfortunately, I'm old enough to remember when there was a huge push to teach kids how to code, using logo and basic. Yes, I'm that old, but the same arguments were used back then as are being used now. Learning to code doesn't magically teach you how to be more logical or analytical. It just teaches you how to code. Back then they found there really wasn't any carry over between coding and other forms of analytical thinking. Coding teaches you how to code. Not how to be a better problem solver. Now you can teach problem solving, and many of the things that people are addressing in the comments are addressed in the new common core standards. I just think this emphasis on coding is a big red herring. Teach kids how to problem solve, using math and reading skills, and you come out with a more adaptable, flexible, smarter student.
Hey, don't be picking on poor Toronto, look at Kansas or Oklahoma or any number of US state and you'll find the same crazies, only here the crazies run the state governments!
The Steam DRM is different than the anticheat software. The anticheat software is only used when playing online multiplayer games. You can opt out of using the anticheat software, but then you can't get onto various servers to play. Single player gaming is not effected by the anticheat software. And to everyone complaining about Steam DRM, I take it you don't use apple products either, because what apple does is way more intrusive than anything steam does.
Ahhhh, Derek Smart. My first experience of being ripped off by a vaporware product. Learned my lesson back in the '90s not to trust this a**hole. But companies like EA took lessons from him.
Sorry, but I agree with the people who see this as a service issue first. If you are a writer or publisher or photographer offering a service to the public, you are not allowed (as a matter of law) to discriminate against certain groups. Now some people will object to having gays put in this category, but tough. That fight is already lost. You can't discriminate against people on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation. I think that trumps any free speech issue. If you are offering a service to the public, you just can not discriminate, period.
Chicago State has unfortunately been a cesspool for years, with mismanagement and outright criminal acts by the administrators going unpunished. They should probably just de-certify the university and start from scratch. It really is just a lame excuse for a university, and an embarrassment for Chicago.
But the point that CDProjekt has learned is that piracy does NOT significantly impact the bottom line, and that intrusive DRM can negatively effect sales. They are only being rational about things. A perfect case study showing the foolishness of all these intrusive DRM schemes that companies use. 6 million sales speaks to the effectiveness of CDProjekt's approach.
It's just more security theatre. As mentioned many times before on this site, Homeland Security and the TSA don't protect against real threats, they just pretend to so that the public will feel better. Same thing here. Instead of dealing with real threats, controlling access to firearms, better mental health care, ect. stupid gov't officials like to act tough and engage in security theatre, and of course the cops just egg them on, since it increases their budgets, and let's them buy all those toys. It's just pathetic.
Sorry, but you are trying to simplify the issue to the point of absurdity. All the social sites as well as search sites are censored to some degree. To argue that children should be exposed to any and all material is just wrongheaded. Of course we control what children should and should not be exposed to. Every type of media, from film to music has some sort of controls in place to limit the types of material children are exposed to. To argue that facebook should somehow be totally uncensored, is just disingenuous. The question isn't whether to censor what children are exposed to, but how much to censor. I admit that it is absurd to censor any type of breast pics, and allow grotesque violence like a beheading, but to argue that we should not limit what children are exposed to is just ridiculous. And BTW, I'm a card carrying ACLU member. This issue has nothing to do with free speech. People need to educate themselves on what free speech really means. Free speech is the gov't stepping to to limit or control the expression of people. Facebook is totally free to control what happens on their site. As is BestNetTech.
Charges have been upgraded for the undercover cop. He is now suspended. I think he is the one on the tape who was pounding on the back windows of the car. He did break in the window and was punching the car before Lein was dragged out and beaten. And from the reports, the reason Lein drove off and ran over that motorcyclist, was that the mob was beating on his car, slashed at least one tire. With his wife and child in the car, he obviously was afraid of what the mob was going to do. I do wonder why he didn't call 911, didn't he have a cell phone?
You make some good points, but the decisions that were made with simcity were such BS, and the response of EA to the problems were so badly done, it was a textbook example of how not to design a game. But the fact remains, that the decisions made in the design of simcity were made purely to insert online drm into the game. It is an anti consumer attitude that pisses off people about EA.
I think the most disgusting part of this story is how the mainstream media is just sensationalizing the story instead of actual reading the report and saying what BS it is. So much for responsible reporting.
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What history books did you read. You think just because the laws were off the books, that stopped businesses from discriminating? Businesses only stopped when they started getting sued and taken to court. By the way, Jim Crow laws were only in the south. The rest of the country was quite happy to discriminate without laws to back them up. I live in Chicago, and discrimination was as bad here as in any southern state. And it only stopped when people were forced to stop discriminating by laws banning discrimination.
Re: Re: Re: It's having to endorse a position is what is wrong
Actually, they would not have to make a cake with a hateful message. They would be fully within the law to refuse to make the cake, because they aren't discriminating based on race, sex, religion, or sexual orientation. It's where businesses discriminate against these specific groups is where they are violating the law. Should the bakery be allowed to refuse to make a cake for a wedding of a black man and white woman? Or for a muslin wedding?
Re: It's having to endorse a position is what is wrong
Negro? What century are we in?
Re: Re: Historical amnesia.
Sorry, but you must have amnesia yourself. Read up on what racial discrimination really was. Society tolerated and supported racial discrimination. It took federal laws and tons of lawsuits to stop blatant discrimination. Are you really proposing we go back to the 1930's and let any sort of discrimination be legal again?
Chicago State has been a canker sore on Chicago for decades. Many presidents have been forced to resign, and it's used a major source of patronage. It's an embarrassment to Chicago. Of course it's on the South Side, where there is a desperate need for affordable, quality education. And the powers that be of course screw it up. Nobody screams about it because, you know, it's only the black population getting screwed. They ought to close it down and start from scratch.
Everything old is new again
Unfortunately, I'm old enough to remember when there was a huge push to teach kids how to code, using logo and basic. Yes, I'm that old, but the same arguments were used back then as are being used now. Learning to code doesn't magically teach you how to be more logical or analytical. It just teaches you how to code. Back then they found there really wasn't any carry over between coding and other forms of analytical thinking. Coding teaches you how to code. Not how to be a better problem solver. Now you can teach problem solving, and many of the things that people are addressing in the comments are addressed in the new common core standards. I just think this emphasis on coding is a big red herring. Teach kids how to problem solve, using math and reading skills, and you come out with a more adaptable, flexible, smarter student.
You can only hope that they'll both keep fighting this out in court, and cost each other hundreds of millions in attorney's fees.
Re: Re: I looked,
They obviously hold the patent on flux capacitors.
Hey, don't be picking on poor Toronto, look at Kansas or Oklahoma or any number of US state and you'll find the same crazies, only here the crazies run the state governments!
Re: That's what you get...
WTF do unions have to do with this story? Stay on the topic
Re: As a Single Player Hacker
The Steam DRM is different than the anticheat software. The anticheat software is only used when playing online multiplayer games. You can opt out of using the anticheat software, but then you can't get onto various servers to play. Single player gaming is not effected by the anticheat software. And to everyone complaining about Steam DRM, I take it you don't use apple products either, because what apple does is way more intrusive than anything steam does.
Golden Oldie
Ahhhh, Derek Smart. My first experience of being ripped off by a vaporware product. Learned my lesson back in the '90s not to trust this a**hole. But companies like EA took lessons from him.
Re: Re:
Sorry, but I agree with the people who see this as a service issue first. If you are a writer or publisher or photographer offering a service to the public, you are not allowed (as a matter of law) to discriminate against certain groups. Now some people will object to having gays put in this category, but tough. That fight is already lost. You can't discriminate against people on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation. I think that trumps any free speech issue. If you are offering a service to the public, you just can not discriminate, period.
Chicago State has unfortunately been a cesspool for years, with mismanagement and outright criminal acts by the administrators going unpunished. They should probably just de-certify the university and start from scratch. It really is just a lame excuse for a university, and an embarrassment for Chicago.
Re: DRM
But the point that CDProjekt has learned is that piracy does NOT significantly impact the bottom line, and that intrusive DRM can negatively effect sales. They are only being rational about things. A perfect case study showing the foolishness of all these intrusive DRM schemes that companies use. 6 million sales speaks to the effectiveness of CDProjekt's approach.
Just More Security Theatre
It's just more security theatre. As mentioned many times before on this site, Homeland Security and the TSA don't protect against real threats, they just pretend to so that the public will feel better. Same thing here. Instead of dealing with real threats, controlling access to firearms, better mental health care, ect. stupid gov't officials like to act tough and engage in security theatre, and of course the cops just egg them on, since it increases their budgets, and let's them buy all those toys. It's just pathetic.
Sorry, but you are trying to simplify the issue to the point of absurdity. All the social sites as well as search sites are censored to some degree. To argue that children should be exposed to any and all material is just wrongheaded. Of course we control what children should and should not be exposed to. Every type of media, from film to music has some sort of controls in place to limit the types of material children are exposed to. To argue that facebook should somehow be totally uncensored, is just disingenuous. The question isn't whether to censor what children are exposed to, but how much to censor. I admit that it is absurd to censor any type of breast pics, and allow grotesque violence like a beheading, but to argue that we should not limit what children are exposed to is just ridiculous. And BTW, I'm a card carrying ACLU member.
This issue has nothing to do with free speech. People need to educate themselves on what free speech really means. Free speech is the gov't stepping to to limit or control the expression of people. Facebook is totally free to control what happens on their site. As is BestNetTech.
Undercover cop charged with felonies
Charges have been upgraded for the undercover cop. He is now suspended. I think he is the one on the tape who was pounding on the back windows of the car. He did break in the window and was punching the car before Lein was dragged out and beaten. And from the reports, the reason Lein drove off and ran over that motorcyclist, was that the mob was beating on his car, slashed at least one tire. With his wife and child in the car, he obviously was afraid of what the mob was going to do. I do wonder why he didn't call 911, didn't he have a cell phone?
Re: Re: Re:
You make some good points, but the decisions that were made with simcity were such BS, and the response of EA to the problems were so badly done, it was a textbook example of how not to design a game. But the fact remains, that the decisions made in the design of simcity were made purely to insert online drm into the game. It is an anti consumer attitude that pisses off people about EA.