He thinks the US owns the internet.
It does turn the wifi on briefly to listen, but transmits nothing when it does so. It uses the radio chip as a receiver only. The rest of the operating system does not think the radio is on when it does this.
Nasch is right, I'm not talking about cell towers. Also, my Wifi is not engaging in any handshaking to do this. It's just listening for the AP beacons.
"This is the same scenario."
No, it's not. The issue with what Comcast is doing isn't the advertising, it's the spying. Comcast is essentially engaging in an extortion racket here, requiring "protection money" to keep them from attacking you.
And even then, we have no assurance that if you pay them the money they'll actually stop with the spying.
Also, "I, Robot" was a book full of stories about how the Three Laws of Robotics don't really work.
"Would you rather have them get it out of their system on this guy or on some sap with broken tail light at the next traffic stop?"
Neither, thank you.
I would rather the police not act as judge, jury, and executioner.
You're just reading the wrong definition. "Premium" meaning "high quality" is the third definition in my dictionary. The first is "An amount paid over and above the regular price".
I think Comcast is going with the first.
"they should put some effort into creating online ads that don't annoy their readers"
A certain amount of annoying is fine with me. What I absolutely cannot tolerate is the tracking. Until that stops, my adblockers stay up.
"For now, nothing to see here - move on."
I couldn't disagree more. If we just ignore these issues now, they will be decided by default in a way that is very unfavorable for individuals and will become extremely difficult to change.
Now is exactly the time to raise a big fuss about all of this.
I'm not sure what you're referring to here. When my receiver is sniffing, it is only listening. It is not sending out a radio transmission at all. (I just now confirmed this with some test equipment.)
Your reference to "transmission by reflection" is vague and I can think of a couple of things that you might be referring to, but none of them seem very relevant to this particular issue.
What am I missing?
This is pretty close to the approach that my hometown paper has taken, although they're a bit tighter with the paywall from the sounds of it.
I pay them. Not because of the paywall, but despite it.
Their coverage of local news is very good, and I want to support that. Also, they let me run my adblocker full blast and still read the news.
Yes, this is precisely correct.
I was speaking of the more general case. After all, some retail stores have started using the exact same sort of tracking of anyone that comes into their stores.
This has been trivially possible for a very long time now. The only thing that's happening here that's new is that it's being done by institutions on a wide-scale basis. But the technique they're using is as old as Wifi itself.
By the way, this can't even be considered "hacking". All of the information being obtained is being done through known and accepted protocols being used in the intended way.
The issue, really, is that data, legitimately obtained for one purpose, is being used for an entirely different purpose without people's knowledge -- let alone consent.
So, as with many of these things, the real question is "who owns the data"? Is it "your" data, because it is about you, that you've "licensed" for a particular purpose? Or is it the AP owner's data, because they collected what was freely given, and they can use for any purpose they wish?
Here's an explanation I found of the law:
A mark that is primarily a surname does not qualify for placement on the Principal Register under the Lanham Act unless the name has become well known as a mark through advertising or long use—that is, until it acquires a secondary meaning. Until then, surname marks can only be listed on the Supplemental Register. To register a mark that consists primarily of the surname of a living person (assuming the mark has acquired secondary meaning), the mark owner must have the namesake’s written permission to register the mark.
Personally, I use Android and Tasker to accomplish a compromise. My phone occasionally "sniffs" the wifi signals in the area (it does not send any wifi signals out when it does this), and if it sees an AP that is on my list of approved access points, it turns the wifi on and connects to that point automatically. When I leave the AP's range, it turns the wifi back off.
This way my wifi is effectively off when I'm out and about, but I don't have to remember to turn it on or off myself.
"the only information that can be gathered from my phone is that a smart phone with such-and-so MAC address sent a ping to identify wi-fi sources in the vicinity."
Right, which means that it's possible to identify and track the movements of your cell phone, even if you don't connect to anything.
Yes, this.
It's not a "discount" when its a surcharge.
"I can easily see them claim they just anonymized the USER ID from their database, but left all of the other tracking in place."
And let's not forget that even aggressive and sincere attempts at anonymization have yet to actually work.
"Good ones usually get them thrown out"
I wish this were true, but I have seen exactly zero evidence that it is.
Re: 1 million bitcoins?
There are a number of nations that could come up with half a billion for this without much problem.
But I suspect that they aren't really as interested in selling the stuff as they are in sending a signal that they could sell the stuff.
I agree with Snowden in that the way all this went down only really makes sense if its part of a political play. This is about message more than the actual tools.