What is sad though is when you can make a 3 min phone call and say everything you are going to say and be done. But no, the other guy will only talk to you using text and it takes 3 hours!
I think FDR said it best, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
They create the fear that the nukes will start flying or the power grid will crash because the US govt has the servers open to the web because of lax security, and get the public to fear it, then they get their representatives involved and it just spirals from there! There are too many "sheeple" out there that believe anything that is on the news, because you know the news is always truthful and honest, right?!?
So they use the press to feed the fear, thus getting the govt to throw more money to them to fix the thing causing the fear. Since when did the press have to actually have hard facts to publish a story.
/sarcon
I vote yes for the BestNetTech "cycberwar" division. You know you have got to keep us informed of the terrorists and anti-US govts that are taking over the pcs of all the Americans and are about to launch a full scale invasion and war on us!!!! To ARMS!!!!!
/sarcoff
Maybe Google should go pull out a few skeletons from his closet and speak up about them. That is what he is doing to them. They are against the censorship, so now he wants to find anything and everything that Google might have slipped up on and act like it's a great conspiracy.
I still say that if you are using an open Wi-fi and anyone can drive by and see the info, then it's just like you have your windows open and tape that info to the window for anyone to see. If they got anything from your wi-fi, then it's your own fault for not securing it!
Don't blame Google for your own ignorance or carelessness. At least they came out and said they did it. What about that creepy guy across the street that's collecting everything you are broadcasting, or the van parked down the road a ways that is doing the same thing.
You might want to listen to Google and secure your own belongings rather than bitch at them for telling your your fly is open!!!!
I love the fact that she admits she works in IT, and ignorantly uses an open wi-fi.
I want to know how she knows that data was captured of hers? Was she at home when the Google car drove by, was she sending email or other data at the time it went by? Where's the proof they actually got anything from her or the other guy? And the fact, they just jumped on this after Google admits it had a scanner that could do this. Apparently they were aware of the fact they used open wi-fi without encryption, to just figure out that maybe Google got their data. If they knew it was open, why didn't they lock it up?
And in the papers, it says she continues to use an open wi-fi. If I were her employer, I would be investigating her, because of the non-disclosure she agreed to and then blatently used an open wi-fi knowing that it could be stolen.
I think she should be thanking Google for pointing out that this can happen. Maybe she should be more worried about the guy that might live across the street actually stealing the data and actually doing something bad with it, or the guy that could drive by, spot the open connection and then get in and collect the data.
Our current society is so idiotically stupid in saying "yeah I left my doors open and left things up on my pc" and then sueing the guy that came by that said "hey I noticed the door was open and glanced inside and might have seen something personal or something you could get in trouble for leaving out and viewable to anyone that came by, I just wanted to let you know it could happen."
Damn people take some responsibility and secure your own things. You leave it open, then you are the one to blame for it getting stolen!!! Don't knowingly leave it that way then wait for the first guy to come by and see it and then sue the hell out of him for saying "hey dumbass your fly is open!!!"
The sheeple out there just piss me off, just looking for something to get get a quick buck from like this.
I for one would love to see the Star Trek revolution happen. Imagine these folks when a real replicator comes out and people are copying everything.
The big dogs in the recording/movie industries will spontaneously combust when they hear about it.
Oh lets tell the parents to throw away $100's of dollars on applications to monitor the pc.
Any why, because most parents don't have a clue how the internet or their pc works, and think installing something like would actually work.
Most kids now days know ways around the software, or they know someone else who does, or can just look it up on the web.
I know someone who tried to use this and thought he was an IT guru. He bought a pc for his kids and put it in their room. He installed the software. Then he would check on things once or twice a week and found nothing going on and all was good.
Then he gets a visit from his local sheriff dept about the activity going on at 3am from his IP. Come to find out the kids had figured out a way to just turn off the software (that can not be turned off) and were downloading 1000's of torrents and looking at porn and all sorts of nasty stuff.
So any parents that actually think this will work, are just ignorant of that fact their kids know more than they do about pcs and the internet.
"Or maybe he thinks the iPad experience is so intoxicating that its users will end up like monkeys with their pleasure centers wired to a button, pressing it again and again until they wallow about in their own filth."
Actually I know a few folks who fall into this category. They just sit there all day on the couch pressing buttons on their iPhone. You try to talk to them, and they either ignore you or tell you to shut up. They keep pressing buttons with a big smile on their faces about all the fun they are having.
I highly doubt Apple will ever allow Flash on iAnything. News pops up every day now about how developers keep trying, but Apple keeps blocking it and their terms state that they will not allow it.
And yeah HTML5 might be a great change, but that is if and when all the players settle down and decide on what stays and what goes. So, don't expect it to go anywhere for years.
The iPad is the newest toy from Apple. Yes it's pretty cool and would be fun to play with and such, but it's just the next product from Apple that I'm not going to buy.
I don't have an iPhone. I have all sorts of friends that brag and go on and on about their pretty toy and all the 100's of apps they have and such.
I have a Blackberry that I got for free from my service provider that can do more than I need it to do, and I'm not one of those that download any and every app that comes along just to say I have it. I mean come on, do you really need an app that tells you how to spread peanut butter on a sandwich? My friend Mike thinks so. Yeah it's pretty and has a touch screen. Oooooh, Aaaahhh, big friggin deal. It's like buying a fully loaded Cadillac and coming over to show off to me. I don't want one, and I can keep a little cash in the bank with my semi loaded vehicle and be very happy with it.
The iPad is just another pretty toy to brag about and that's all. I don't want to support Steve Jobs and his evil little ego trip. I can afford to build or buy a few pcs and laptops for what I'd pay for one of his macs.
Then there is the fact that if it's an Apple product, it pretty much only interfaces with Apple only products.
Yeah, my friend Mike is always bitching that he can't sync his iPhone to his pc, or the fact he can't multi-task on his iPhone. But wait they are talking about it happening, hmmm all that fancy sparkle but a year or few behind on something a lot find important.
And I live in West Texas, and all that dirt in the air everytime there is a little 40 mph breeze, his touchscreen gets scratched in his pocket. He's had to send his phone in 3 times to get it fixed, and of course pay for it and get a refurbished iPhone, and loose all his precious apps and info stored on his phone.
I see the iPad that he just bought having the same trouble, but Mike thinks it's the best thing to ever happen in human history. I was laughing so hard when he went to install World of Warcraft on his pretty little toy and then say, "wait, I need a keyboard and mouse for all the controls I need to play," and had to give up that wonderful plan. He didn't find it was too easy to handle the game with a keyboard taking up half the screen.
Oh well, have fun all of those who are foolishly building Apples new fortune. I'm not loosing any sleep because of the fact I don't care to keep up with the Joneses.
I get tired of every other day hearing something new from Murdoch about putting up paywalls and blocking Google...
Well I'm gonna keep saying it "Put Up or Shut Up!"
I want him to stop threatening it, or bitching about it and just do it. If it's such a great idea, then what is he waiting for.
I'm just waiting for it to happen, then a bit later watch him backtrack like hell because he's loosing his customers when they don't want to pay for something they can get elsewhere without paying.
Ok, let's see. The sign is in public view and they just drove by. What the hell is so secret then. Maybe not that many drive that way and probably would never even notice it if they did. I would think the same would apply to the street view? If you were not caring to see what's along that street then I doubt you would look at the street view either.
Of course now by going public and getting all pissy, you are just advertising its existence all loud and proud like.
I agree with you completely. They keep making empty threats, that they are going to put up paywalls, and they are going to block Google. Yep, quit whining and do it. I want to see it happen!!
The reason they don't is because they know they face a quick death in online readers and advertisers. "Hmmm... let's see put up a paywall and force over half of our readers elsewhere, and the advertisers with them when they realize they are gone, sure let's do it....NOT!!" They know what's going on, but they just keep wanting the govt or someone else to fix it for them and force readers or money to them.
And then the old "we are going to block Google from showing short intros to our stories and then linking to us, because it's theft!" They know if they block Google from showing these, then they will loose all that traffic coming in.
These guys are just trying to game the system and blame someone else for their old fashioned business model dieing.
I'm waiting for the first one to actually block Google then get all butt-hurt when their competitors are getting all the traffic and they go off and sue because Google isn't listing them anymore.
I work in IT, and once was at the call center watching one of the guys taking a call and trying to get the person on the other end to a website, and it was going nowhere.
So what does he do. Logs into his facebook page, add a link to the url he was trying to get the user to. Then he gets back on the phone and tells the user to go to facebook and look him up. After about 30 seconds, he says ok now look at the favorite sites and see the one for "XXX," click it!. Then he got the guy fixed up and done.
Amazing how you can try and try to get someone to type a url, or search for it in google, yahoo, etc... and go nowhere. Then tell them to go to facebook or twitter and the guy is a genious and can find anything.
It's a sad day on the web when the only thing anyone knows how to do is update their facebook or twitter pages, but have no clue how to do or get to anything else!!
Where I live if they catch you with an outside food or drink they will call the police, and then when the police get there come in and ask you to leave. On the way out, the police will cite you for it too.
I never have heard of a particular law, but know a few who have had to go to court to get it thrown out, but they keep on doing it anyways.
I have never been caught, but it's just insane how much crap they put you through over this, and then whine because they are loosing money selling $15 tickets and 20 oz cokes for $7.50.
If you ever wondered why politicians never seem to do any actual work, here you go. He's wasting his time reading comments and tracking down those who post something about him he doesn't like.
Spending more time trying to go after those with a negative view of him online is such a great use of tax dollars! To hell with trying to pass any worthwhile legislation.
What is sad though is when you can make a 3 min phone call and say everything you are going to say and be done. But no, the other guy will only talk to you using text and it takes 3 hours!
Re: Re: Fear
Maybe they are thinking about the vets coming home from war. So they can feel right at home, and still living in a war zone.
Fear
I think FDR said it best, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
They create the fear that the nukes will start flying or the power grid will crash because the US govt has the servers open to the web because of lax security, and get the public to fear it, then they get their representatives involved and it just spirals from there! There are too many "sheeple" out there that believe anything that is on the news, because you know the news is always truthful and honest, right?!?
So they use the press to feed the fear, thus getting the govt to throw more money to them to fix the thing causing the fear. Since when did the press have to actually have hard facts to publish a story.
/sarcon
I vote yes for the BestNetTech "cycberwar" division. You know you have got to keep us informed of the terrorists and anti-US govts that are taking over the pcs of all the Americans and are about to launch a full scale invasion and war on us!!!! To ARMS!!!!!
/sarcoff
Maybe Google should go pull out a few skeletons from his closet and speak up about them. That is what he is doing to them. They are against the censorship, so now he wants to find anything and everything that Google might have slipped up on and act like it's a great conspiracy.
I still say that if you are using an open Wi-fi and anyone can drive by and see the info, then it's just like you have your windows open and tape that info to the window for anyone to see. If they got anything from your wi-fi, then it's your own fault for not securing it!
Don't blame Google for your own ignorance or carelessness. At least they came out and said they did it. What about that creepy guy across the street that's collecting everything you are broadcasting, or the van parked down the road a ways that is doing the same thing.
You might want to listen to Google and secure your own belongings rather than bitch at them for telling your your fly is open!!!!
idiots
I love the fact that she admits she works in IT, and ignorantly uses an open wi-fi.
I want to know how she knows that data was captured of hers? Was she at home when the Google car drove by, was she sending email or other data at the time it went by? Where's the proof they actually got anything from her or the other guy? And the fact, they just jumped on this after Google admits it had a scanner that could do this. Apparently they were aware of the fact they used open wi-fi without encryption, to just figure out that maybe Google got their data. If they knew it was open, why didn't they lock it up?
And in the papers, it says she continues to use an open wi-fi. If I were her employer, I would be investigating her, because of the non-disclosure she agreed to and then blatently used an open wi-fi knowing that it could be stolen.
I think she should be thanking Google for pointing out that this can happen. Maybe she should be more worried about the guy that might live across the street actually stealing the data and actually doing something bad with it, or the guy that could drive by, spot the open connection and then get in and collect the data.
Our current society is so idiotically stupid in saying "yeah I left my doors open and left things up on my pc" and then sueing the guy that came by that said "hey I noticed the door was open and glanced inside and might have seen something personal or something you could get in trouble for leaving out and viewable to anyone that came by, I just wanted to let you know it could happen."
Damn people take some responsibility and secure your own things. You leave it open, then you are the one to blame for it getting stolen!!! Don't knowingly leave it that way then wait for the first guy to come by and see it and then sue the hell out of him for saying "hey dumbass your fly is open!!!"
The sheeple out there just piss me off, just looking for something to get get a quick buck from like this.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:
I for one would love to see the Star Trek revolution happen. Imagine these folks when a real replicator comes out and people are copying everything.
The big dogs in the recording/movie industries will spontaneously combust when they hear about it.
Re:
Oh lets tell the parents to throw away $100's of dollars on applications to monitor the pc.
Any why, because most parents don't have a clue how the internet or their pc works, and think installing something like would actually work.
Most kids now days know ways around the software, or they know someone else who does, or can just look it up on the web.
I know someone who tried to use this and thought he was an IT guru. He bought a pc for his kids and put it in their room. He installed the software. Then he would check on things once or twice a week and found nothing going on and all was good.
Then he gets a visit from his local sheriff dept about the activity going on at 3am from his IP. Come to find out the kids had figured out a way to just turn off the software (that can not be turned off) and were downloading 1000's of torrents and looking at porn and all sorts of nasty stuff.
So any parents that actually think this will work, are just ignorant of that fact their kids know more than they do about pcs and the internet.
Re: analogy fail
"Or maybe he thinks the iPad experience is so intoxicating that its users will end up like monkeys with their pleasure centers wired to a button, pressing it again and again until they wallow about in their own filth."
Actually I know a few folks who fall into this category. They just sit there all day on the couch pressing buttons on their iPhone. You try to talk to them, and they either ignore you or tell you to shut up. They keep pressing buttons with a big smile on their faces about all the fun they are having.
Re: Re: Flash support
I highly doubt Apple will ever allow Flash on iAnything. News pops up every day now about how developers keep trying, but Apple keeps blocking it and their terms state that they will not allow it.
And yeah HTML5 might be a great change, but that is if and when all the players settle down and decide on what stays and what goes. So, don't expect it to go anywhere for years.
iApple and their toys for adults
The iPad is the newest toy from Apple. Yes it's pretty cool and would be fun to play with and such, but it's just the next product from Apple that I'm not going to buy.
I don't have an iPhone. I have all sorts of friends that brag and go on and on about their pretty toy and all the 100's of apps they have and such.
I have a Blackberry that I got for free from my service provider that can do more than I need it to do, and I'm not one of those that download any and every app that comes along just to say I have it. I mean come on, do you really need an app that tells you how to spread peanut butter on a sandwich? My friend Mike thinks so. Yeah it's pretty and has a touch screen. Oooooh, Aaaahhh, big friggin deal. It's like buying a fully loaded Cadillac and coming over to show off to me. I don't want one, and I can keep a little cash in the bank with my semi loaded vehicle and be very happy with it.
The iPad is just another pretty toy to brag about and that's all. I don't want to support Steve Jobs and his evil little ego trip. I can afford to build or buy a few pcs and laptops for what I'd pay for one of his macs.
Then there is the fact that if it's an Apple product, it pretty much only interfaces with Apple only products.
Yeah, my friend Mike is always bitching that he can't sync his iPhone to his pc, or the fact he can't multi-task on his iPhone. But wait they are talking about it happening, hmmm all that fancy sparkle but a year or few behind on something a lot find important.
And I live in West Texas, and all that dirt in the air everytime there is a little 40 mph breeze, his touchscreen gets scratched in his pocket. He's had to send his phone in 3 times to get it fixed, and of course pay for it and get a refurbished iPhone, and loose all his precious apps and info stored on his phone.
I see the iPad that he just bought having the same trouble, but Mike thinks it's the best thing to ever happen in human history. I was laughing so hard when he went to install World of Warcraft on his pretty little toy and then say, "wait, I need a keyboard and mouse for all the controls I need to play," and had to give up that wonderful plan. He didn't find it was too easy to handle the game with a keyboard taking up half the screen.
Oh well, have fun all of those who are foolishly building Apples new fortune. I'm not loosing any sleep because of the fact I don't care to keep up with the Joneses.
But then we'll hear from our buddy Obama and his too big to fail crew. And then it's Bailout 2.0!
Put up or shut up
I get tired of every other day hearing something new from Murdoch about putting up paywalls and blocking Google...
Well I'm gonna keep saying it "Put Up or Shut Up!"
I want him to stop threatening it, or bitching about it and just do it. If it's such a great idea, then what is he waiting for.
I'm just waiting for it to happen, then a bit later watch him backtrack like hell because he's loosing his customers when they don't want to pay for something they can get elsewhere without paying.
Re: Re:
That pretty much sums it up. The real winner in all this was South Butt. Because all this publicity has added to their profits.
Striesand Effect Anyone?
Ok, let's see. The sign is in public view and they just drove by. What the hell is so secret then. Maybe not that many drive that way and probably would never even notice it if they did. I would think the same would apply to the street view? If you were not caring to see what's along that street then I doubt you would look at the street view either.
Of course now by going public and getting all pissy, you are just advertising its existence all loud and proud like.
Re: Paywalls for news make perfect sense
I agree with you completely. They keep making empty threats, that they are going to put up paywalls, and they are going to block Google. Yep, quit whining and do it. I want to see it happen!!
The reason they don't is because they know they face a quick death in online readers and advertisers. "Hmmm... let's see put up a paywall and force over half of our readers elsewhere, and the advertisers with them when they realize they are gone, sure let's do it....NOT!!" They know what's going on, but they just keep wanting the govt or someone else to fix it for them and force readers or money to them.
And then the old "we are going to block Google from showing short intros to our stories and then linking to us, because it's theft!" They know if they block Google from showing these, then they will loose all that traffic coming in.
These guys are just trying to game the system and blame someone else for their old fashioned business model dieing.
I'm waiting for the first one to actually block Google then get all butt-hurt when their competitors are getting all the traffic and they go off and sue because Google isn't listing them anymore.
Re: Re: I wish...
I work in IT, and once was at the call center watching one of the guys taking a call and trying to get the person on the other end to a website, and it was going nowhere.
So what does he do. Logs into his facebook page, add a link to the url he was trying to get the user to. Then he gets back on the phone and tells the user to go to facebook and look him up. After about 30 seconds, he says ok now look at the favorite sites and see the one for "XXX," click it!. Then he got the guy fixed up and done.
Amazing how you can try and try to get someone to type a url, or search for it in google, yahoo, etc... and go nowhere. Then tell them to go to facebook or twitter and the guy is a genious and can find anything.
It's a sad day on the web when the only thing anyone knows how to do is update their facebook or twitter pages, but have no clue how to do or get to anything else!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Best year ever is deceptive...
Where I live if they catch you with an outside food or drink they will call the police, and then when the police get there come in and ask you to leave. On the way out, the police will cite you for it too.
I never have heard of a particular law, but know a few who have had to go to court to get it thrown out, but they keep on doing it anyways.
I have never been caught, but it's just insane how much crap they put you through over this, and then whine because they are loosing money selling $15 tickets and 20 oz cokes for $7.50.
If you ever wondered why politicians never seem to do any actual work, here you go. He's wasting his time reading comments and tracking down those who post something about him he doesn't like.
Spending more time trying to go after those with a negative view of him online is such a great use of tax dollars! To hell with trying to pass any worthwhile legislation.
Re: SO....
Probably the opposite. You get sick in Utah, then you gotta pay up. You are using their microbes after all.
Golum Mentality
The folks over at Viacom are falling to the power of the ring, err the "hit show"
They want to be the one and only source of the Daily Show and Colbert. I can hear the execs now going "my precious"