NY Post: Fact Checking Is Now Censorship
from the fact-checking-is-more-speech-you-goons dept
This was inevitable, ever since Donald Trump and the MAGA world freaked out when social media’s attempts to fact-check the President were deemed “censorship.” The reaction was both swift and entirely predictable. After all, how dare anyone question Dear Leader’s proclamations, even if they are demonstrably false? It wasn’t long before we started to see opinion pieces from MAGA folks breathlessly declaring that “fact-checking private speech is outrageous.” There were even politicians proposing laws to ban fact-checking.
In their view, the best way to protect free speech is apparently (?!?) to outlaw speech you don’t like.
This trend has only accelerated in recent years. Last year, Congress got in on the game, arguing that fact-checking is a form of censorship that needs to be investigated. Not to be outdone, incoming FCC chair Brendan Carr has made the same argument.
With last week’s announcement by Mark Zuckerberg that Meta was ending its fact-checking program, the anti-fact-checking rhetoric hasn’t slowed down one bit.
The NY Post now has an article with the hilarious headline: “The incredible, blind arrogance of the ‘fact-checking’ censors.”

So let’s be clear here: fact-checking is speech. Fact-checking is not censorship. It is protected by the First Amendment. Indeed, in olden times, when free speech supporters would talk about the “marketplace of ideas” and the “best response to bad speech is more speech,” they meant things like fact-checking. They meant that if someone were blathering on about utter nonsense, then a regime that enabled more speech could come along and fact-check folks.
There is no “censorship” involved in fact-checking. There is only a question of how others respond to the fact checks.
What the MAGA world is upset about is that, in some cases, private entities (who have every right to do this) would look at some fact checks and decide “maybe we shouldn’t promote utter fucking nonsense (or in some cases, potentially dangerous nonsense!) and spread it further”.
This is all still free speech. Some of it is speech about other speech and some of it is consequences from that speech.
But not one lick of it is “censorship.”
Yet this narrative has become so embedded in the MAGA world that the NY Post can write an entire article claiming that “fact-checking censors” exist without ever giving a single actual example of it happening.
There’s a really fun game that the Post Editorial Board is playing here, pretending that they’re just fine with fact-checking, unless it leads to “silencing.”
The real issue, that is, isn’t the checking, it’s the silencing.
But what “silencing” ever actually happened due to fact-checking? And when was it caused by the government (which would be necessary for it to violate the First Amendment)? The answer is none.
The piece whines about a few NY Post articles that had limited reach on Facebook, but that’s Facebook’s own free speech as well, not censorship. Also, it’s not at all clear that any of those issues had anything to do with “fact checking,” rather than a determination that the Post may have violated Facebook’s rules.
It does cite the supposed “censorship” of Trump’s NIH nominee Jay Bhattacharya for the Great Barrington Declaration:
Most notably, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford and his colleagues from Harvard and Oxford got silenced for recommending against mass lockdowns and instead for a focus on protecting only the elderly and other highly vulnerable populations.
Except, as we called out just recently, even Bhattacharya’s colleague who helped put together the Great Barrington Declaration (and who hosted the website) has said flat out that the reason the FB page was taken down had nothing to do with Facebook, but rather anti-vaxxers who brigaded the reporting system, claiming the Great Barrington Declaration was actually a pro-vaccination plot.

The Post goes on with this fun set of words:
Yes, the internet is packed with lies, misrepresentations and half-truths: So is all human conversation.
The only practical answer to false speech is and always been true speech; it doesn’t stop the liars or protect all the suckers, but most people figure it out well enough.
Shutting down debate in the name of “countering disinformation” only serves the liars with power or prestige or at least the right connections.
First off, the standard saying is that the response to false speech should be “more speech” not necessarily “true speech” but more to the point, uh, how do you get that “true speech”? Isn’t it… fact checking? And, if, as the NY Post suggests, the problem here is false speech in the fact checks, then shouldn’t the response be more speech in response rather than silencing the fact checkers?
I mean, their own argument isn’t even internally consistent.
They’re literally saying that we need more “truthful speech” and less “silencing of speech” while cheering on the silencing of organizations who try to provide more truthful speech. It’s a blatant contradiction.
The piece concludes with this bit of nonsense:
PolitiFact and all the rest are welcome to keep going, as long as they’re just equal voices in the conversation; we certainly mean to go on calling out what we see as lies.
Check all the facts you want, as long as you don’t get to silence anyone else.
But… that’s always been the case. Fact checkers have never had the power to “silence anyone else.” They just did their fact checking, provided more speech, and let others decide how to deal with that speech. The Post’s argument is a strawman, railing against a problem that doesn’t actually exist.
In the end, the Post’s piece inadvertently makes the case for more fact-checking, not less. In a world awash with misinformation, we need credible voices providing additional context and correcting the record. That’s the very essence of the free marketplace of ideas.
The Post seems to want a “free marketplace of ideas” where only ideas they agree with are allowed to be expressed. That’s not how free speech works.
Trying to silence voices calling out misinformation in the name of free speech is the height of hypocrisy. The Post should take its own advice – if you disagree with a fact check, respond with more speech, not by celebrating the active silencing of fact checkers you disagree with.
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Comments on “NY Post: Fact Checking Is Now Censorship”
Good. We can tell crying republicans that their dead kids are fake news
Calling real news fake does not make them any less real. Also known as how to piss off republican politicians.
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Hypocrites?
If only the MSM were as vigorous and rigorous fact-checking the Democrats as they are the Republicans. I guess that’s why the alternate new sources trend the other direction.
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Did you accidentally transpose the words Democrats and Republicans?
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Switch “Democrats” and “Republicans”, and you’ll be correct.
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They… don’t trend to the right, though, and the MSM’s fact-checking is not what the NYP article was even criticizing. Not to mention that Republican-leaning sources are no better.
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That nonsense about conservatives being singled out and silenced is bullshit. It’s always been bullshit and will always be bullshit. It’s never been the case and it would be nice if you lying douchebags could stop playing the victim at literally every opportunity.
'Well call out every lie we see(so long as it doesn't upset the Dear Leader)!'
PolitiFact and all the rest are welcome to keep going, as long as they’re just equal voices in the conversation; we certainly mean to go on calling out what we see as lies.
A claim I have but one word for in response: Liar.
Rag notorious for counterfactual flights of fancy defends the right to lie
Truly an unforeseeable turn of events.
I just cannot wrap my head around why everyone is lining up around the block to go to bat for the clown. If Trump were the sort of person to reward his minions for their loyalty I could understand, but as far as I can tell he has never been particularly loyal to anyone who gives him stuff or does things for him. Currying favor does nothing if he’s going to throw you under the bus the nanosecond a better deal (or hell, just something more entertaining) comes along.
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He isn’t the kind to reward perceived loyalty, but he certainly has a habit of punishing perceived disloyalty.
And given that his followers are willing to punish disloyalty on his behalf (e.g. “Hang Mike Pence!”), they might be what they are trying to avoid be trying to appear loyal.
Re: 'If we give the tyrant unchecked power surely he'll be nicer to us.'
Cowardice and a particularly stupid version of self-preservation.
Convicted felon Trump is well known to be spiteful and petty among his other charming character traits and they’re hoping that if they grovel and kiss his ass enough when(not ‘if’) he’s weaponizing the government to punish his ‘enemies’ he’ll notice their subservience and pass them by.
What makes it particularly stupid is that like you note he has a demonstrated history of throwing even his biggest ‘supporters’ under the bus for even the slightest bit of gain or for even a hint of ‘disloyalty’ so all they’re doing is giving him even more rope to hang them by by not even trying to stand up to him.
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Some of them think they can control him. Others are just taking advantage of his interests aligning with theirs.
This is the New York Post. It’s a Murdoch paper. It’ll repeat whatever the Trump line is.
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Are you saying that some of them want to use him?
And that some of the people want to be used by him?
Sounds like someone could make a pretty decent song outta that.
Hmmm. Mike if the NY Post was being truthful that fact checking is censorship (LOL), then we don’t have to worry about them spouting any more nonsense. Because their own argument is that this article silences them.
Sadly, as you pointed out, the arguments lack internal consistency, and I guess that’s the sort of drivel their intended audience wants.
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Only a few more days until Republicans control all branches of the federal government!! 😀
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In all your gloating, you seem to forget a simple fact: When Republicans take control of the whole-ass federal government, they also take whole-ass responsibility for everything the federal government does under their watch, which means Republicans—and the people who voted them into office—will have to take the whole-ass blame for anything and everything that goes wrong.
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Who cares what haters & losers think, Stephen? Not me!!
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You should care about them, given that you should care about yourself.
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Tell ‘em again how much you don’t care bro!
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Given that you voted for Trump, YOU care about what haters and losers think.
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This is not the win you think it is.
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Yup bro. Then it will all be your guys fault. See ya soon 😘
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Fault for what? Not liquidating enough illegals and imprisoning enough subversives?
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When anything and everything the government could be doing to help citizens doesn’t go right (or doesn’t happen at all), that will be the fault of Republicans. Rising retail prices, botched (or nonexistent) disaster relief, a public health crisis that could’ve been prevented via vaccinations, the destruction of public education—if any of that happens, it will happen on the watch of Republicans in general and Donald Trump in particular.
You were so interested in installing fascists into the office of the presidency that you forgot about how they still have to govern the country. Republican governance is all in their hands now; they can’t blame Democrats for anything that Republicans fuck up. And if you think Republicans won’t fuck up, you must be smoking some dank shit.
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People cannot be liquidated. That’s incoherent. Though, frankly, you probably will complain that they aren’t “imprisoning enough subversives”.
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Oh wow look at you transgressing boundaries over there. Just like a real boy.
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ok edge lord
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Your mom edges to my comments.
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Your mom hates how you vote.
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Like numbnuts over there actually voted.
Or his mom still talks to him.
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A reminder that they controlled all branches of the federal government back in 2017, too.
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Honestly, the most annoying part of this for me is that it renders “censorship” a meaningless term.
No, MAGAts, someone telling you you’re wrong—even if they themselves are wrong about that—is not censorship. It doesn’t become censorship if someone else then acts on that fact-check to moderate or censor you, either. That’s just pure speech (not even expressional conduct), and speech (absent conduct) is not and cannot be censorship.
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I’d say congrats on your big win, but you didn’t win a fucking thing. As with Trump’s last tenure and every other time Republicans are in control, they’ll do nothing of actual worth, they’ll fuck everything up, and you’ll gain absolutely nothing from it.
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I’ve already gained the satisfaction of listening to all you faggots cry & complain about how bad and evil Orange Man is! 😀
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You’re under the age of 18, aren’t you.
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“all you faggots…”
Did you just arrive from 2002?
What do you mean? “The view from nowhere” is a valid reporting technique, and we reject your factual challenge of it! — NY Post
The fact they see fact checking as a threat gives the entire game away. They know they cannot back up their propaganda,so they attack the only thing standing in their way, facts.
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Watching liars protest fact-checking and treat it as some massive conspiracy to silence The Truth is like watching a disease argue that white blood cells are threats and should be chemically stopped from being produced in the body.
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In a fit of irony, pretty sure injecting bleach into your veins[0] would be a REALLY good approximate of that.
[0] Never ever do this. If you don’t see the obvious reasons, let me just tell you: if you do this everyone you consider an enemy wins, and you lose.
Will it become a crime then to point out the lack of clothing Dear Leader is parading about with?
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No, they’ll say that pointing out the Emperor has no clothes is pornography, and it is prurient to make that point, and the like. You know what they’re like ….
This to me is just the final step in something I’ve seen going back several decades. It used to be, back when I was in elementary school, that if eg. a company had said they couldn’t and wouldn’t supply X and one of their salesmen went and said, “Sure, we can supply X for you.”, the response from the customer was “You’re lying.”. It gradually became less and less acceptable to say that, instead you had to phrase it elliptically as “Your company says that’s not correct.”. Now we’ve arrived at the end state where even the implication that the salesman’s statement might not be entirely correct is unacceptable. I notice too that it’s always the same kind of person that’d be that kind of salesman who want this end state. Makes sense, if it’s acceptable to call them out then it limits their ability to sell.
Time, I think, to go back to it being acceptable to call a lie a lie.
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Hey, idiot.
If it blocks your meme, link whatever, makes people click past a “this has been determined ‘false'” splash page, makes it so that content shows in feeds less — keep in mind “fact checkers” get things wrong all the time, often on purpose (i.e. it’s just propaganda)….. that is absolutely censorship.
Basically everyone else except you and a few of your smooth brained readers realizes this, you goddamned m0r0n.
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The NYpost article, on the other hand, seems excellent, thank you for bringing my attention to it.
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You strike me as more a Weekly World News level of reader.
NY post is oriented towards the more literary minded meth-head.
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The NYP article claims that even having a message attached claiming that the content is false is censorship. Not even you went that far.
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“…smooth brained readers realizes this, you goddamned m0r0n.”
Protip homeslice, when calling someone stupid it’s best not to misspell a word. It makes you look like a m0r0n.
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That you had to describe all those things that aren’t actually fact-checking to try to argue that fact-checking is censorship is very telling. You’re complaining about something else and conflating the two. Fact-checking by itself is just additional speech.
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If Facebook decides to limit speech based on a fact checker then that is Facebook exercising its own First Amendment rights to set its own editorial rights for its own property (you do believe in property rights, right? Or did you throw that out with any principles?).
But it’s still not the fact checkers doing it. The fact checkers are adding their speech.
Then Meta is making determinations based on that speech, as is it’s own First Amendment right.
This isn’t difficult. Except for you and people who simp for Trump/Musk.
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Idjit. ALl you’re arguing about is that censorship should be legal (which yes, it is, except when told to do so by the government, which FB was, OFTEN!)
It is still censorship you dumb fuuuckt
Well, except it is. Of course it is FB pulling the lever but at the same time the “fact checkers” know EXACTLY what will happen when they call “Biden has age related dementia” as “fake news”. FB outsourced the decision, so now it’s the “fact checkers” making the decision.
In the end it doesn’t fuucking matter, Duumb@ass english majors are asked to determine what is “true”, do so in hilariously biased fashion, censorship ensues, exactly as planned. Still censorship in hilarious fashion.
And you cheered them the whole time, and everything is going to go opposite what you want, and I am super happy. I won.
(yes, me, personally. I advanced my objectives and you did not, which probably had financial consequences for you, but never for me. I literally just get to share based memes with less sh!tlibs trying to cesnor me)
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You’re claiming to correct what you pretend is Mike’s inaccuracy. You are (incorrectly) “fact checking” his claims. Would you then agree based on the logical conclusion of your claims that you are censoring Mike simply by uttering your “corrections” (however incorrect they are)? Or are you just adding speech?
Keep telling us you’re happy. Happy people don’t need to keep trying to convince everyone else that they’re happy. And if your happiness derives entirely from the state of others, then you’ll always be disappointed because someone you don’t like will always have it better than you. People you don’t like are going to weather the Trump administration better than you will.
But please, tell us one more time that you’re happy, and in doing so, prove that you’re not.
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Except it isn’t. Fact-checkers saying “This is false, and here’s what’s actually fact” isn’t the same as saying “This is false and it should be removed“.
But it’s not a surprise that you have to lie to support your argument.
If determining what is true is censorship, then the Community Notes on Xitter are censorship as well. But that’s a Musk thing, so of course you ignore that.
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It’s not censorship in any way, you illiterate fuck. Words, as it turns out, already have meanings. You don’t get to create your own.
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Wrestling imaginary pigs in the mud while thinking you are winning only makes you a delusional loser covered in mud that should be committed.
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No, they do not, because FB doesn’t do that for every post the fact-checkers determine to be false. Sometimes, all they do is attach a note saying that the post is false and do nothing else. Since the result of telling FB a post is false doesn’t always lead to that post being “censored” even under your definition, you cannot infer that the fact-checkers knew beforehand that FB will “censor” any particular post that gets determined to be false.
So no, they do not “know EXACTLY what will happen when they call ‘Biden has age related dementia’ as ‘fake news’.” Since your premise is false, your argument is unsound.
(Side note: To my knowledge, fact-checkers don’t generally call things “fake news”. Among fact-checkers, that term is generally reserved for people impersonating actual major news outlets or forging articles from such outlets, not just any false claim.)
No, they outsourced only the determination of whether something is true or untrue. FB still makes the decision about what to do with a post that has been determined to be false. Heck, you yourself point out multiple different responses they might take for a given piece of content, so clearly FB doesn’t do the same thing every time.
Except there is zero evidence that it is planned, nor does “censorship” ensue even half of the time. Most of the time, they just affix a note. You don’t even have to click past a splash page.
Not to mention that fact-checkers aren’t all English majors, and being an English major doesn’t mean you’re unqualified to fact-check a claim.
Because they were taking measures that didn’t always involve removal of posts altogether.
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You sound extremely butthurt, like someone who’s been fact-checked a lot.
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And that’s just on this site. Imagine how bad he gets it everywhere else! 🤣
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“It is still censorship you dumb fuuuckt”
I love how you call people stupid wile being unable to properly spell the word fuck.
I it’s like boiling down a psychological profile into a single sentence.
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I’d ask what the fuck you’re yammering about, but it’s clear that even you don’t know, Matty.
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Did any of those actions somehow prevent someone from expressing their speech outside of the platform that did any or all of those things? If the answer is “no”: It’s not censorship.
Blocking a meme based on its content, blocking a link for any reason, putting up a fact check pop-up, and fucking with algorithms to deprioritize posts based on their content are all forms of editorial discretion. And much like with letters to the editor of a newspaper, the person who creates content that platforms refuse to publish/host can always make a copy of their content and post it on any site willing to publish/host that content. Being the “victim” of content moderation doesn’t make you a victim of censorship; believing otherwise makes you a fool who believes in the “I have been silenced” fallacy.
Re: Just saying “that is absolutely censorship” doesn’t mean it is censorship
Here’s the thing: The fact-checkers do not do any of that. All the fact-checkers do is state whether a claim is true or false and why they believe that. The stuff you’re complaining about is the platforms’ decisions, not the fact-checkers’.
As such, even if I granted your claim that even hiding content behind a “this is false” splash page (something I can’t say I’ve ever seen) or downranking content so it gets recommended less is censorship (something I vehemently disagree with, especially since it’s private platforms we’re talking about), that still wouldn’t make the fact-checking itself censorship even if the fact-checkers were deliberately making false statements. It could be defamation, but defamation is not censorship.
Moreover, the NYP article makes no such distinction. It explicitly calls out even having a tag attached that says the post is false as being censorship, even if there is no downranking, blocking, or hiding of the content at issue. Therefore, even granting everything you say here, it doesn’t actually address the article at issue here, which is the thing being complained about.
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Citation needed.
I agree
I would like to design a T-Shirt and Bumper-sticker: “I agree with Mike Masnick”
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Lol
I’ve fact check this article and it contains lies. It will now be deleted and anyone who liked it banned
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Fake news.
@NYPost: FYI, Fact checking can be considered the prelude to suppression, actually, since it often results in the suppression of bullshit such as yours.
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The downside to “fact” checking is when it is done to mask criminal conduct, such as the origins of Covid-19.
While there was a written plan to create the virus with Project Defuse, the government engaged in parallel construction with the debunked “the pangolin did it” conspiracy theory.
If there was a man-made origin, that would imply that all deaths occurred at the hand of another, and that a pathogen destructive to human health has been added to the environment.
The “fact” checking that occurred relating to Covid-19 origins was done to conceal criminal conduct. And the “fact” checking was reportedly done at the instigation of government.
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Uh-huh. Sure. And I’m actually an advanced synthesized intelligence that lives within all the bits and bytes of global Internet traffic.
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No, it doesn’t. You’re assuming intent that is not in evidence. And even if it came from Project Deluge, that doesn’t make it man-made. That, again, requires there to be specific intent to create the virus.
I mean, that was always the case even if it wasn’t man-made. It wasn’t there before, and now it’s there, so it was added to the environment even if it was nature doing the adding. And that it is a pathogen destructive to human health was never disputed by those pushing against the lab theory.
Even if I was to grant that the fact-checking concealed criminal conduct (and I’m not convinced that that’s the only or most likely possibility), it still doesn’t follow that the fact-checking was done to conceal criminal conduct.
Though, really, even assuming that COVID-19 did originate from Project Deluge, I’m not convinced that there was any criminal conduct involved (save perhaps some criminal negligence, maybe).
FB asked the CDC whether certain claims about the virus were true. The CDC said that, at that time, there was insufficient evidence to conclude that the virus came from a lab, and even less evidence that it was deliberately engineered. (Note: “it came from a lab” doesn’t mean it was deliberately engineered.) FB responded by moderating content claiming that it did and was, sometimes by removal, sometimes by downranking, and sometimes by adding a note.
So no, it wasn’t “done at the instigation of the government”. FB asked if something was true, the CDC said, “We don’t have evidence to support that,” and FB moderated posts based on that information.
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Isn’t amazing how some people can rationalize obvious bullshit, that happens when their mental horizon is like their overgrown backyard full of led-painted toys.
If the statement “And the “fact” checking was reportedly done at the instigation of government” is true, that means every government in the world put their thumbs on the scale. Ie, a world-spanning conspiracy to hide the origins of the COVID-19 virus, even by governments that hates the Chinese, without no one discovering it.
But I guess this particular person propagating this bullshit haven’t even thought that there exists countries and governments outside the USA that have vastly different goals and agendas and that would happily use any wrongdoings by China to attack them.
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Perhaps you should do some fact-checking of your own. Covid-19 originated in bats, not pangolins, and no bats were sold in the Wuhan wet market.
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Whoosh!
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It was obviously the reverse vampire under the mind control of the mole people in corporation with the saucer people who were seconded from the RAND Corporation.
dUH!
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Typical
This is typical behavior of the so called fact checkers. Take an existing claim and tweak it, sometimes ever so slightly so you can claim that the ones making the claim are liars.
No one claimed fact checkers themselves were censoring. No one. The ‘fact checkers’ were often not actually fact checkers. They would find an article online that disagreed with the statement and point to that. That didnt mean the article they pointed to was actually true, but they would claim it was. For example, the ‘science’ behind masks, 6ft rule, etc. At this point even Fauci has admitted they made it all up. But the fact checkers are never held accountable for their ‘mistakes’. The mainstream media and politicians are never silenced like regular people when they post things that werent true. You were only silenced if you disagreed with the establishment. And it was often done at the behest of the government. The twitter files and Zuckerberg confirmed this.
Remember the ‘fact checking’ that Hunter Bidens laptop was disinfo? Even though Hunter never denied it. Those 50 ex spies saying it was despite never seeing any evidence at all? All lies. Remember the pee tape? Lies.
Jesus, how much do these people need to lie to you for you to stop taking them at their word?
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It’s ironic that you don’t understand what disinfo is despite repeating it a lot.
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Fact Check: At least one asshole in this comments section is making that claim.
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Hey bro. Honest question.
How many times did you jerk off to the pictures of Hunters Hog?
No tea, that thing is impressive. But there’s no other reason you’d still be talking about it.
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The NYP literally did, as is Matthew Bennett here.
That doesn’t make them not fact checkers.
Even granting this, being incompetent at fact-checking doesn’t mean that they aren’t fact-checkers.
False. Some of the policy recommendations were “figure things out as we go” (which is not the same as making them all up), but the science was largely established long beforehand.
You haven’t even pointed to an actual mistake. More importantly, you’re holding them accountable the only way they should be right now: more speech.
That’s on the platforms. The fact-checkers checked their posts as well, so that’s an entirely separate issue.
Plenty of disagreement wasn’t silenced. And you weren’t even silenced.
As has been pointed out multiple times on this site, this is entirely false.
He did, though. He just didn’t deny that some of the content came from his cloud account. He did deny most of the rest, though.
And it was never that the laptop was disinformation. It’s that it was really sketchy.
No, I honestly don’t remember such a claim having ever been made.
You are aware that most people who mention that didn’t generally believe that there was ever an actual pee tape and were just joking, right? You’re taking that way too seriously there.
Let me know when you can point to an actual lie that was taken seriously, rather than something that became just a joke, something which was a mistaken conclusion, or something which is not even really false.
Like, I’m sure there are lies. You’re just really bad at picking out examples. And this isn’t about believing them. This is about the 1A issues with the government getting involved in it and whether it is censorship as the article claims it to be.
Where has society gone when the simple statement of fact is considered to be a crime?
Double Think has become a reality.
“”To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies …”
– George
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Republicans will still control all three branches of the federal government next week, faggots!! 😀
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Hey Crybitch you forgot to sign in
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And your life will still suck, thus motivating you to continue to attempt to reconcile your personal failures by feeling happy for villainous people who don’t give a fuck about you. You’re just posting reminders that you’re a loser even when the people you worship win.
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He has made “I’m here only to piss people off” his entire personality, which is weird as hell.
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Good for you, I guess.
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"Deamplified"
Fact checking is fine. Check as much facts as you want. On anyone you want.
But that’s not what happened. What happened is people getting posts removed, hidden, accounts demonetized, deamplified, people deplatformed (call it whatever you want, even Orwellian terms like these last two) for holding the wrong opinion.
Even by fact-checkers own lingo it’s perfectly fine to remove true straight up honest stuff if it serves a narrative they not like. They invented a word for it: Malinformation.
And this stuff very much was centrally cooked up and coordinated, by entities getting their money from taxes.
There’s a word for that too.
Everyone of course is free to pretend it didn’t happen.
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So what? Meta’s platforms, Twitter, and literally every other social media service can do those things without government interference. They have an absolute right to decide whether to add their own speech to that third-party speech (e.g., Community Notes), delete that speech for violating the TOS, deamplify that speech by fucking around with algorithms, or leave it alone. That includes speech that expresses opinions some would consider distasteful or hateful. If you want that to not be the case, go start your own social media service and refuse to moderate anything but illegal speech. But you should know that such an approach means you’ll run headfirst into at least one of these two problems: the Content Moderation Learning Curve or the “Worst People” Problem.
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But that’s not what happened. What happened is people getting posts removed, hidden, accounts demonetized, deamplified, people deplatformed (call it whatever you want, even Orwellian terms like these last two) for holding the wrong opinion.
Which ‘opinions’ would those be, and please, be specific.
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That’s not what happened.
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“I just suggested that people I don’t like are not human and should have their rights stripped away in possibly a violent fashion. I didn’t say anything rude or illegal!”
FTFY, Lucio Saverio Eastman. YW.