Trump OLC On Boat Strikes: The Less Of A Threat Posed By Boat Occupants, The More Justified We Are In Murdering Them
from the if-they-don't-want-to-be-killed,-they-should-fight-back-more dept
This administration isn’t content to be normal awful. It insists on being ghastly awful as often as possible.
Not content to eject hundreds of migrants into foreign torture prisons, the administration has decided it’s time to start killing foreign people in boats just because. That’s not me using a worn-out turn of phrase. That was the administration’s official response when it began engaging in extrajudicial killings in international waters. It fired first and issued its justification after.
At first, the theory was that the international drug trade amounted to war-like actions against the US that would justify the violence. But that excuse only works for so long. Limitations on executive power are supposed to force the president to present his case for war to Congress. Trump doesn’t want to do this even though it’s virtually assured GOP legislators would trip over themselves to rubber stamp whatever xenophobic violence the Trump administration wants to engage in.
The military is fully involved. But those officials are struggling to maintain the GOP party line while still respecting the laws that govern military actions.
Department of Defense (DOD) officials told Democratic lawmakers in a brief on the U.S. military’s strikes against boats off the coast of northern South America that the military is not identifying the occupants of the boats before they bomb them.
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On Thursday, Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-California) told CNN that the Pentagon briefed her and other lawmakers on the attacks, informing them that the administration does not “need to positively identify individuals on the vessel to do the strikes.”
The administration attacked the boats — rather than detaining and then prosecuting the people they claimed were drug traffickers — “because they could not satisfy the evidentiary burden” to successfully prosecute them, Jacobs elaborated.
So, it’s pretty much civil asset forfeiture, but with the military killing people rather than merely robbing them of their property. It’s a middle finger to due process that makes it clear this administration would rather kill people than prosecute them, which is going to get even more frightening when it inevitably decides it can bring this undeclared war back home.
Even though it probably feels it owes no one any explanation for its actions, the Trump administration is still trying to find some way to sell the system of checks and balances on its offshore murder program. Some form of justification is needed for these extrajudicial murders. And the administration’s latest legal theory is both sickening and astounding. Realizing that referencing “hostilities” might put time limits on boat strikes, the Trump DOJ continues to revise its take on war powers, which has led to this bit of galaxy brain rationalization:
A top Justice Department lawyer has told lawmakers that the Trump administration can continue its lethal strikes against alleged drug traffickers in Latin America — and is not bound by a decades-old law requiring Congress to give approval for ongoing hostilities.
The key word here is “hostilities.” The administration must seek approval from Congress for “sustained” actions against a foreign enemy. The War Powers Act was passed in response to President Nixon’s undeclared war on Cambodia during the Vietnam War. Nixon justified military action in Cambodia by claiming the country was harboring Vietcong combatants.
That law sets a 60-day time limit on actions like these and it has been routinely ignored by the Executive Branch. President Obama blew it off to engage in an undeclared war in Libya, while Trump did the same thing during his first term to engage in sustained air strikes in both Yemen and Syria.
The second Trump administration is now blowing off the War Powers Act to prevent it from at least temporarily halting boat strikes in the Caribbean and those that are now taking place in the Pacific Ocean. Here’s how the Office of Legal Counsel — via T. Elliot Gaiser — is seeking to circumvent the long-codified 60-day limit:
Gaiser said the administration did not believe the strikes met the definition of hostilities under the law and did not intend to seek an extension of the deadline nor Congress’s approval of ongoing action, according to three people familiar with the matter, who, like others interviewed for this article, spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.
In other words, because boat strike murder victims are not firing back at US troops or engaged in any attacks on US military personnel/bases, they are not engaged in “hostilities.” If these strikes aren’t a response to “hostilities,” there should be no time limit on them. And that is some insanely dangerous bullshit.
“What they’re saying is anytime the president uses drones or any standoff weapon against someone who cannot shoot back, it’s not hostilities‚” said Brian Finucane, a former legal adviser to the State Department who is now a senior adviser for the U.S. program at the International Crisis Group. “It’s a wild claim of executive authority.”
Yeah, it is. It’s pedantry in service of straight up murder. The Defense Department has admitted it’s killing people because it can’t secure a criminal conviction. The administration is continuing to pretend that the mere existence of an international drug market justifies drone strikes on boats in international waters. And now it’s going even further, threatening land wars (but without actually declaring war) in Columbia, Venezuela, and for some fucking reason, Nigeria.
We have the same people who see Orwell’s 1984 as a blueprint making it clear they believe Mr. Kurtz is the real hero of Joseph Conrad’s Heart of Darkness. And as if this wasn’t dystopian enough, the administration is using NSA-esque contact chaining to kill people simply because they might be acquainted with someone (allegedly) in the drug trade:
“What they told us is they have to show a connection to a designated terrorist organization or their affiliate, and as long as they can show that connection, they believe they are authorized to strike,” Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-California) said in an interview.
But such connections could be as much as “three hops away” from a known drug trafficker, Jacobs told reporters after the briefing.
Under this theory, if you know or are acquainted with anyone who purchases/uses illicit drugs, you’re probably just two hops away from a “known drug trafficker.” You’ll only be three hops away if there are enough small-time middlemen involved that haven’t previously been arrested on drug charges. Three hops in the United States would make most of the population a “justifiable” target for an extrajudicial drone strike. Just because it’s happening to non-citizens in international waters doesn’t change the math. It just makes it easier for most Americans to stomach and much easier for the bigots in power to sell to the bigots in their voting bloc.
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Comments on “Trump OLC On Boat Strikes: The Less Of A Threat Posed By Boat Occupants, The More Justified We Are In Murdering Them”
Where are the generals willing to disobey plainly illegal orders? Oh right, they’ve all been quitting or fired or prosecuted.
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They never existed. It’s not possible to be in the military long enough to reach general without having obeyed some illegal orders.
Re: Re: So there's no such thing as a general worthy of respect then, gotcha
I’m not sure if you were trying to defend or make excuses for the military there, but if so that’s not how to do it.
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I have no idea how anyone could read the preceding message as a defense of the military. But service members can’t realistically even question the validity of orders; see the Wikipedia page for Harold Hering, recently linked from the Dunning-Kruger thread.
Do you think someone who raises the question “How do I determine whether an order is legal?” would do any better? Somehow I doubt the military’s gonna offer to transfer them from basic training to law school for a few years.
So, they don’t identify them, but they know they’re connected to a terrorist organization, but they cannot prove it.
So they shoot.
Re: That's the story.
It is pretty much entirely made up to fit the punch line.
Like much of the current administration, standup tragedy.
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Wait, I thought the line was ‘drug traffickers’?
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They are unironically labeling them “narcoterrorists” now.
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Shoot first. Ask questions never.
It’s the American way!
In Other News
Kevin Bacon is currently seeking sanctuary in an undisclosed location over extensive records suggesting traffickers’ Bacon numbers are suspiciously low.
This is so absurd and offensive I cannot put it into words.
The War Powers Act is an exception to the law that using the military requires Congress to declare war.
Which means all other military use requires Congress to declare war or an active invasion against the US.
That the War Powers Act means these acts are automatically unconstitutional and beyond unconscionable. Unfortunately for us, fascists lack any conscious.
A lot of people going to jail in the future over these extrajudicial killings, hopefully from the trigger puller all the way up to the top.
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One can hope.
But unless you get someone campaigning on that and winning, it probably won’t happen. At best they will stop doing the murdering.
Does the administration want terrorists?
Because this is how you get terrorists.
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Dead serious, yes they do. I’ve no doubt whatsoever that more than anything else they want people to start shooting at US soldiers because then they can point to that as justification not only for their current atrocities but any future atrocities too.
Whether foreign or domestic the regime wants people to be as violent as possible towards it so they can use that as justification for their power-grabs and brutality, and the reason the keep ramping up said brutality is because so far the only violent ones in the room has been them.
No, just no.
This is uncivil asset forfeiture, the asset forfeited being the most vital one – your life. And thus no backsies. Treating human beings like inanimate objects is a hallmark of the criminally insane (and fascists – but I repeat myself).
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My dude did you just chide somebody for dehumanizing people and then casually stigmatize mental illness in the same sentence?
'We know we can't win in court so skip that step.'
The administration attacked the boats — rather than detaining and then prosecuting the people they claimed were drug traffickers — “because they could not satisfy the evidentiary burden” to successfully prosecute them, Jacobs elaborated.
Just let that sink in for a moment, what they just admitted. They don’t have enough evidence of criminal activity to successfully prosecute the murder victims in court and they know it, so instead of trying them in court they’re just declaring them guilty(again, knowing they don’t have the evidence to prove it) and murdering them on the spot.
‘We know we couldn’t win in court so we went ahead and moved straight on to handing out death sentences instead’ is the sort of murder-justification that would make the torture memo writer proud.
(And as always as damning as it is for the regime to give these orders the military is just as responsible for following them, so well done US military members for continuing to show that the only difference between modern US soldiers and WW2-era german soldiers is the uniform.)
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Nope, even he’s like “whoa there, hang on now.”
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Well then I stand corrected, John Yoo may be fine with torturing prisoners but apparently he draws the line at murdering entire boatloads of people on nothing more than assertions of guilt.
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Cry about it more, anarchist.
We’re raining literal Hellfire(s) down on the low-level scum and it makes for great 30sec clips on X!
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Do you have an actual point, or are you just talking?
Bomb the Boats
and feed the fish
The forgotten rebels
I mean, you can literally see the like 40 barrels of drugs in each shot. They’re not fish.
My biggest concern is I wonder how many fish the fentanyl kills.
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You can literally see what looks a little bit like barrels in blurry, black and white pictures taken from an awkward angle. Stop pretending you have even the first fucking clue what you’re seeing.
Even if you were right, which is unlikely, given whose claims you’re parroting, being a trafficker doesn’t come with an immediate death sentence under ANY circumstances.
Just like anyone connected to Epstein, right?
We are lost.
Truly lost in the soft language era. To call the Trump administration awful, the word falls far short! We are talking extrajudicial murder without justification. Trump with this has become a war criminal. (Even if he will never face any accountability for it.
This is just Civilian Forfeiture…
"We are talking extrajudicial murder without justification."
Which the USA has been doing, in several parts of the world, for a couple of decades. Under George W Bush, Barak Obama, Trump, Biden and Trump again. This isn’t a Trump problem, or a Republican problem. It’s an American problem, and if you blame it on Trump, you’re complicit in the previous iterations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_airstrikes_on_Yemen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drone_strikes_in_Afghanistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan
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You’re not wrong but if you don’t see this as escalation then you’re being intentionally obtuse.
BTW, former president Obama spells his first name “Barack”.
All the laws written for little people have punishment clauses. “Those found by a court of law to have violated this section shall be guilty of an x and pay fine y and imprisoned for z to a…”
So we can just amend the War Powers Act to include a punishment clause. “… any and all commissioned officers of any U.S. authority, including but not limited to the Army, Navy, Air Force, Space Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard, any federal police, and those in command thereof, including but not limited to civilian commanders like the Secretary of Defense and the President…”
“… shall be found guilty of treason, and executed by firing squad not more than one year after such conviction.”
After all, isn’t part of the point deterrence? If freely ignorable by everyone involved it’s not much of a law, is it?