Oklahoma’s Overreaction To Charlie Kirk’s Murder Part 1: Kirk Statues At Every Public University!
from the paging-the-courts dept
I have not written at all about Charlie Kirk in the wake of his disgusting murder, so allow me a bit of throat clearing. When I learned of his murder, my reaction was to be both depressed and a bit sick to my stomach. I’m under no illusions about who Kirk was, what he stood for, and my deep opposition to the positions for which he advocated. I’m equally not in any way fooled by the posthumous lionizing campaign that has been conducted to try to rewrite what he did in life, nor the disingenuous nature of his so-called “debate” setups at colleges and elsewhere.
With all of that being said, what happened to Kirk was simple: he was savagely murdered in front of an audience by a deranged assassin for his speech. And that is every bit as antithetical to the American experience as even the worst of what Kirk may have said in life. I was depressed and sick over his killing, in part because what happened to him was obviously not right, and in part because I absolutely knew what would come in the aftermath. His death would be viciously used by others to advance agendas that have little or nothing to do with Kirk’s life or death.
And that brings us to Oklahoma. Usually, when I’m talking about Oklahoma, it’s about the christo-fascist running the state school system, Ryan Walters. And we’ll get to him in part 2 of these posts, because he just resigned his post in a very funny way. In this post, however, we’ll talk about Republican members of the Oklahoma legislature introducing a bill that would require every public university in the state to create a statue of Kirk, emblazoned with a sign referring to him as a “civil rights leader,” within an area on campus dedicated to his memory.
The Oklahoma bill, sponsored by state senators Shane Jett and Dana Prieto, specifies that the memorial site must be in “a prominent area” on the main campus of every institution of higher education in the state system, and must include “a statue of Charlie Kirk sitting at a table with an empty seat across from him” or one of Kirk and his wife holding their children. Designs for the statue must be approved by the legislature.
Each plaza must also include “permanent signage commemorating Charlie Kirk’s courage and faith and explaining the significance of Charlie Kirk as a voice of a generation, modern civil rights leader, vocal Christian, martyr for truth and faith, and free speech advocate”.
As the article goes on to note, the requirement to refer to Kirk as a “civil rights leader” is especially profane, given his professed disdain for leaders like Martin Luther King, Jr. Failure to abide by this legislation, if passed, would result in monthly fines upon the university equal to 1% of the school’s budget.
I’d love to say that I doubt this bill will pass… but I can’t. Oklahoma is an extremely red state and I can absolutely see this getting through their legislature and being signed by its governor. But if that happens, the lawsuits will come fast and furious. This is a purely partisan bill created by purely partisan state politicians that will compel the speech of universities, and force the witnessing of that compelled speech by the student and faculty bodies. It’s fucking bullshit and Charlie Kirk, if taken at his word, would have opposed the hell out of this. I’m unaware of any other mandated-statues for other civil rights leaders at Oklahoma schools and if Charlie Kirk is the first, well, that makes very little sense.
And just so we know who we’re dealing with here:
One of the lawmakers, Jett, praised Kirk in explicitly religious terms, calling him “a faithful servant of Christ”. Last year, Jett criticized a bipartisan bill to restrict corporal punishment against students with disabilities by citing the Old Testament proverb, “Whoever spares the rod hates their child”, during a debate in the state house.
Pure christo-fascism on display.
I very much hope that this bill doesn’t pass. Not due to any feelings I might have about Kirk’s actions during his life, mind you, but because this sort of performative authoritarian bullshit is just that.
Filed Under: charlie kirk, dana prieto, martyrdom, memorial, oklahoma, shane jett, statues




Comments on “Oklahoma’s Overreaction To Charlie Kirk’s Murder Part 1: Kirk Statues At Every Public University!”
Conservative Christians will apparently worship anybody except Jesus.
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They have no problem worshipping Jesus. Just like with Kirk, it helps a lot if the idol of worship is no longer among the living and can no longer protest how they characterize them.
And to be fair, the whole deal with Christianity has always been about selectively ignoring Jesus’ words, something which St Paul spun into an art form of its own, thus funding Christianity as a religion separate from Judaism.
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Well, we’re not allowed to make images of God and a lot of people believe Jesus to be God’s earthly form, so we’re pretty much left with false idols.
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I’ve never heard of that rule in Christianity, but even so, that would be a rule only Christians have to follow. Anyone else can do that whenever and however they want.
“With all of that being said, what happened to Kirk was simple: he was savagely murdered in front of an audience by a deranged assassin for his speech.”
A mass murderer who enjoyed women slowly suffering to death as their bodies went septic, and who is responsible for and was supportive of a president who is blowing up boatloads of innocent people in international waters.
His “speech” had and is killing people. His speech is part of the reason more kids are going to die of aids. I could go on and on. Let’s not gloss over what his speech advocated for. He made his money getting others to or to support horrible, violent acts.
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Many people (and certainly many Kirk supporters) could not care less about what happen in other countries. Certainly not some terrible prison in South America, or in a place like Gaza where they’d never go in vacation.
Theses people would only grief this guy the media keep repeating its name because he got very lucky to go so far.
I’ll just say it bluntly.
Kirk was a gun loving, woman hating, racist, nazi. He was a murdering pos.
Feeling bad about him getting shot is like feeling bad about a gangster killing a mobster.
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I care exactly as much about Charlie Kirk’s death the same amount he cared about victims of “gang violence” by which I mean his death doesn’t matter because his culture is a culture of violence and his death was merely a statistical probability. Until the leaders of the white community are willing to denounce white on white crime and do something to end it, I see no reason why us real Americans should even acknowledge the deaths of savages like him.
I think this is great. Eventually, Trump will realize there are more Charlie Kirk statues than Trump statues. Trump will declare Kirk an “awful human being”.
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Kirk got off nice. Maybe he should be of been tortured for life like he wanted others to be.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pam-bondi-biden-commutations_n_68d5c705e4b01e99f72e48be?origin=home-latest-news-unit
Truly, no better way to remember Kirk than to continue his life’s work. A fitting tribute.
When I first read about the bill, I was unsurprised at the bizarro world take on celebrating Kirk since it was announced in the midst of all the other over-the-top canonization of him as a right wing saint. But then I realized that the whole civil rights aspect and likely the inspiration for this in general was a racist, reactionary response to celebrating civil rights leaders like MLK Jr, Rosa Parks, etc. Cities around the country named streets and plazas and whatnot for these figures.
So these two rabid conservatives decided, “fine, we’ll shove our ‘civil rights leader’ down their throats!” It’s just a petty, opportunistic clapback. They don’t give a fuck about Kirk. Many of them probably didn’t know who he was. But the performative memorializing became the party litmus test and the justification for going full Decree for the Protection of the People and State on “the left.”
Once again, conservatives try to twist an existing concept and turn it against their enemies while demonstrating they never understood the thing they were criticizing. See also: DEI, woke, CRT, hate speech, et al.
My first reaction to the news item of his shooting was “Who?”. As we see now, though, he’s the embodiment of the MAGA hero: he promoted gun violence against liberals (well, anyone not MAGA). There’s nothing that MAGA loves more than that.
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Imagine if some deranged maniac had murdered Goebbels for his speech. That would have been really sickening and un-American of them.
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Are you seriously comparing Kirk with Goebbels?
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Really more of a Horst Wessel. I guess his death was sickening too.
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You make a compelling point, that AC should have compared him to Horst Wessel instead
Oh, I could imagine so many ways to make fun of Kirk, those ok lawmakers and maga when there was a statue on my university. A very mild suggestion: Have the statue wear a “I love Jimmy Kimmel” shirt.
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Honestly doesn’t feel like they thought this through. They’re setting themselves up to get massively trolled. All it takes is a bit of graffiti with actual quotes from the man.
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Easiest method: place the statue in an otherwise empty couryard clearly labeled “state-required celebratory garden”. Anyone except the very stupidest (ahem) will get it.
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I’d like to see his statue dressed in pro-gun paraphernalia, and surrounded with a pile of child-sized dummies.
Kirkie said their loss was worth it, after all. It would be honoring his message.
I’d have thought you yanks would be inured to random people getting shot by now. Kirk certainly thought you ought to be.
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I think the old Joker meme is called for here.
A school shooting happens, or a boatload of Venezuelans or Palestinians get bombed, it’s all part of the plan.
One right wing political activist is shot, and everyone loses their minds.
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We are, the rending of garments and gnashing of teeth is almost entirely disingenuous. The only people who actually seem to care that turd got flushed are democratic politicians and members of the editorial brunch class.
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Give it a few months. You’ll be expected to bow to the statue whenever you pass it. then you won’t be allowed to turn your back on it or you get expelled.
THEN they add a credit card reader, and you must tithe 10% of your student loans to it……
It means they’ll have something to pile the bodies around after the next mass shooting that Kirk worked tirelessly to enable.
It doesn’t seem like he was murdered for his speech, it is very likely he was murdered for the lulz. He wasn’t murdered for the first amendment, he was murdered for the second.
As he said: “I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment”.
All one can hope for, is for people holding terrible views, to bear the implications of these views, and not have them impact other people.
It would have been better the these terrible people to have no power to implement their views, but I it doesn’t seem to be going this way.
So many statues, so little clown makeup…
I guess that’s one way he can continue to be an obnoxious piece of bullshit on campus
As much as I don’t want this bill to pass, I would LOVE to see those statues go up and then immediately get vandalized beyond recognition.
Is there something in the water?
Apparently, Shane and Dana haven’t heard of the the compelled speech doctrine:
Forcing a University to create a statue/plaque/square for Racist, Misogynistic Charlie collides directly with the CSD.
Now THERE’S a good use of taxpayer money! I think they should AT LEAST put a bottle opener in one of the statue’s hands so that it serves SOME purpose.
I think it’s fitting to have statues of Charlie Kirk to make a statement about politically-motivated killing. The statues should have plaques which read:
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Hey now, Kirk said that before he died! All that stuff doesn’t matter anymore.
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No, now… We don’t let that get in the way when it comes to Jesus…