Trump, ICE Have Earned Every Bit Of The Hatred They’re Now Facing

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Trump is setting the stage for martial law. Again. The reasons for his latest move are directly tied to the actions of his administration and, more specifically, the most visible arm of his anti-migrant policies.

ICE has been problematic for years, but it took two non-consecutive Trump administrations to turn it into the cartoonish supervillain it is now. Even during his first term, no one really believed Trump only wanted to rid the country of the “worst of the worst.” When he disparaged entire countries as “shitholes,” it was clear he just wanted to rid the country of non-white people. When he granted white South Africans an exception to his “no antisemites need apply” immigration policies during his second term, he made it explicitly clear his anti-migrant stance only applied to people less (naturally) white than the badly spray-bronzed Boss Of The US.

ICE raids are now being greeted by massive protests, some of those impromptu gatherings generated by the sudden and unwelcome appearance of unmarked cars (and unmarked people) in mostly non-white neighborhoods. ICE agents — and the federal agency conglomerate currently forced to help Trump stroke one out on main — are being chased out of neighborhoods and businesses by people who wish to protect their friends, neighbors, and families from a government determined to disregard their rights and remand anyone rounded up to the custody of the most accommodating foreign gulag.

It’s not just the big stuff — you know, the casual disregard of rights and deliberate refusal to abide by federal court orders. It’s also the small stuff — the insidious destruction of societal and governmental norms for the sole purpose of pumping up deportation stats.

There’s been a lot of attention paid to Los Angeles, California recently due to ongoing anti-ICE protests and the president’s promise to lay the groundwork for martial law in response. Down in the trenches is where some of the shittiest stuff is happening, which tends to get ignored because of what’s happening out in broad daylight.

Many undocumented immigrants who went to their Immigration and Customs Enforcement check-in appointments at a federal building in Los Angeles this week were taken into custody and brought to the basement and held there, some overnight, according to immigration lawyers and family members.

It was unclear how many people were affected, but the attorneys told CBS News hundreds of immigrants were detained — dozens in the basement in rooms that could fit up to 30 at a time.

Oh, just going after the criminals? I mean, that’s the narrative Trump clings to even as he undercuts it with each subsequent statement or action. People just trying to comply with the law to further their attempt at citizenship or long-term residency are being scooped up solely because ICE knows a great place to find migrants to arrest is in courthouses where they’re scheduled to attend hearings.

It’s not just check-ins. It’s pretty much any legal proceeding that might involve an undocumented migrant. Here’s something that hits more close to (my) home in a state that, fortunately, has only been subjected to two retaliatory raids by ICE agents.

According to an emailed statement to KELOLAND News, Traci Smith with the Minnehaha County Public Defender’s Office said, “The ICE agents’ presence coincided with the presence of witnesses who had been subpoenaed to testify on behalf of the Defendant.” 

Smith said jurors were on a break and many of them saw the ICE arrest, which happened in front of both the witnesses’ wife and infant daughter.

“Because of the scene it caused, the Judge declared a mistrial,” Smith said. “The witness had been lawfully subpoenaed to appear and testify. The actions of the prosecutor and ICE not only disrupted the trial but directly undermined the Defendant’s constitutional right to a fair trial and caused irreparable harm to the judicial process.” 

Smith said the person on trial is a U.S. citizen. 

Yep, ICE hung out in a courthouse so they could ambush a migrant who was on a witness list in a criminal trial. The person on trial was an accused criminal. The person they arrested was doing their duty and responding to a subpoena. Even doing the right thing won’t save you from Trump’s antipathy towards migrants. (For that matter, neither will obtaining a REAL ID, which has been something millions of whiter Americans have been putting off for years because… well… the federal government has been putting it off for years.)

Then there’s the process that has nothing to do with due process: ICE agents show up to arrest people and then tell them their green cards or visas have been revoked. Any government not clearly enamored with its own cruelty would immediately know it’s unfair (and unconstitutional) to revoke immigration status without giving prior notice and allowing those affected to either arrange for legal representation or leave the country on their own terms. But that’s not how it works now under Trump 2.0. Instead, the notification and arrest are simultaneous. And those arrested are sent to detainment centers in judicially-friendly districts to short-circuit legal challenges.

Somehow, it gets even shittier than everything listed above. Here’s how government prosecutors are helping ICE inflate its deportation stats, something undoubtedly encouraged by their ultimate employer: Donald J. Trump.

The Trump administration has launched an operation to terminate the immigration court cases of certain migrants, in order to arrest them and place them in a fast-tracked deportation process instead, government officials and attorneys told CBS News.

Lawyers and advocates this week reported arrests of migrants outside of immigration courthouses across the U.S., saying teams of Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers had detained individuals whose cases in front of immigration judges had just been terminated at the request of the government. 

Two Department of Homeland Security officials told CBS News that ICE is conducting an operation to expedite the deportation of migrants with court hearings scheduled in the near future. It’s the latest step taken by the Trump administration to dramatically ramp up immigration arrests across the country and fulfill what the president has promised will be the largest deportation campaign in American history.

Allowing charges to remain in place means allowing the court system to function properly and give those charged a chance to argue to defend themselves against these allegations. Dismissing the charges doesn’t give migrants freedom they haven’t earned yet, however. Instead, it reverts control of the case to immigration officials, who start expedited removal proceedings, which generally bypass courts entirely. Now, migrants utilizing the court system to make use of the rights extended to them by the US Constitution are finding those rights being unceremoniously stripped by prosecutors who, despite their oath, aren’t actually serving the interest of justice, but rather the belabored brain bleed of a monstrous aspiring autocrat who believes the country serves him, rather than the other way around.

So, when you see ICE agents fleeing extended middle fingers and the occasional thrown object, never forget they chose to be a part of this. And when Trump threatens to bring the military into the war on migrants, always remember he picked this fight and now wants a bunch of other people to fight it for him. Finally, never forgive the people who say “I didn’t vote for this” when they so very clearly did. If you want fascism that might temporarily benefit you, own it. When it finally comes back to destroy the people and rights you actually care for, remember you were the one in the voting booth that day. Or, more likely, weren’t anywhere near a voting booth when it mattered most.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

If this escalation continues, at some point, Donald Trump will order American troops to fire live ammunition at American citizens on American soil. And if that happens, the people who voted for Trump will have no excuses or cop-outs left. They will have to reckon with how they voted for that to happen by voting for a man who has been more than open about his desire to use the military to quash “insurrection” and has openly used his power in attempts to quash dissent against him.

Introspection is easy and living with the truth is hard. But admitting the truth to yourself is the real challenge. Trump voters don’t seem to have the guts for that.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Self-reflection takes honesty and courage, so...

And if that happens, the people who voted for Trump will have no excuses or cop-outs left.

Sure they will, just no honest or moral ones, which won’t be a problem because they tossed those aside ages ago.

‘They should have complied with the orders to disperse.’

‘It’s their own fault.’

‘They had it coming as threats to the country.’

‘How dare they speak out against the government?!’

‘They started it.’

And so on and so on…

Anonymous Coward says:

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That’s what they want though. Trump ran the Nazi playbook, and it appealed to 77mil+ voters. They don’t have to understand they were voting for the Nazi playbook, because it is the Nazi playbook, and it resonated with them. A rose by any other name.

The simple fact is that America has a lot of fascists. You’re threatening them with a good time.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Felony possession of non-white skin and existing while brown

Turns out when the regime mocked and derided critics who claimed they were racists, and defended their plans of mass deportations by claiming that they were only interested in going after ‘criminals’ and ‘the worst of the worst’ that was code for ‘anyone not ivory-white up to and including those here legally and/or attempting to comply with the law‘, who knew?

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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In fairness, they were always going to go for the non-criminals. Trump voters had to have known that when they cast their vote for all of this. Any of them who say “I didn’t vote for him to round up day laborers and mothers” are lying to themselves; they had to have seen the “Mass Deportation Now” signs at his rallies, and they had to have known what Trump meant when he talked about deporting millions of people. They expected gangbangers and murderers and rapists to go first, not the men who work in fields for sub-minimum wages or the women who clean their houses or watch their kids. They willfully blinded themselves to the truth of what Trump promised. Their excuses won’t work any more.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Nope. We’re not doing that shit here.

If you want to allege that voting machines were hacked such that the results were changed to favor any candidate, you need to either offer actual evidence of that allegation or stop making the allegation in the first place. We’re all well aware that voting machines aren’t exactly 100% safe and secure. Any claim beyond that will require proof, and that means having more evidence than Fox News had when it paid nearly $1bn for its lies and slander about Dominion.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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No, the people to blame are people like you who couldn’t stop for one damned second to recognize that the choice was between Harris, who alonngside her administration could very likely be moved on the stance of Israel and its genocide, and Trump, who made it clear before and after that he is all for genocide.

And also, people who are busy fighting for freedom in their own country or just trying to survive a fascist regime aren’t going to be able to help Palestinians at the level they previously were. It’s hard for me to muster up the time and energy and resources to help Palestine woth donations and more when RFK Jr. is creating a registry of people with autism and wants to round me up and send me to a “Wellness Farm”.

Y’all grandstanded on the idea that this time was the time to protest vote, do some bothsiderism, and agitate to “send a message” to the party that wasn’t going to install a dictatorship in the White House. Some of y’all even said shit like “You survived the first four years of Trump, and you’ll do it again.”

My empathy levels for the people here in the U.S. who could have voted to prevent a Trump Presidency, fully knowledgable of how bad it could get, but didn’t? Those levels are at zero. I’m tired, 5 months into this nightmare, and I’m not sure how much more I can take.

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Ben (profile) says:

Re: Re: sorry, not sorry

Sorry, when the alternative is Trump 2.0, knowing what he did in 1.0, and what he & his supporters said on the campaign trail about what they would do this time, not voting for Harris was idiotic and delusional… and I’m being charitable.

Sometimes the lesser of two ‘evils’ is clearly far better for the country than the orange demon YOU HAVE let in now.

Uriel-238 (profile) says:

Re: Re: "The best of only two bad options"

Two party systems are known for turning into a race to the bottom (King Log vs. King Heron). It’s a product of First-Past-The-Post election systems (one person = one vote), but in the case of the US, it was intentional to keep the power in the hands of the (slave-owning, plantation) bourgeoisie.

It’s revealed in other parts of the Constitution of the United States, such as the (defunct) 3/5th rule, the disproportionate power distribution of the Senate and the Electoral College.

Because, as Feinstein, McConnell and Pelosi show us as examples, people don’t give up power until you pry it from their cold, dead hands. Even the Magna Carta was signed at sword point (several times).

We on the left have been holding our nose and voting tactically since Hillary Clinton (if not Bill Clinton), because the DNC is specifically rigged to only allow establishment neoliberals, and force progressives to dine at the kids’ table.

However we get through the MAGA mess, if we let the neoliberals take power again, we’ll end up right back here again, fighting Fascist Autocracy’s next (not necessarily final) form while Pete Townshend screams to a guitar sting:

Meet the new boss!
Same as the old boss!

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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He wouldn’t need the soldiers to outnumber the people. All he would need is the soldiers to overwhelm the people with pure brute force. Drones, tanks, whatever it takes⁠—if he wants to take over a state, he could very well do it with the right application of military might. (And there would likely be a lot of cops with military-style training and equipment willing to help him, too.) Trump would absolutely have the American military kill American citizens on American soil. The question, then, is whether the military would obey such orders. My heart wants to believe they wouldn’t; my head knows there’s a chance they might.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Like I said, it depends largely on the specific application of military might. If he wants to roll into the state with the whole-ass military to try and take it over? I doubt the state or the military would go along with it. But a few well-placed drone strikes on certain targets (e.g., lawmakers) in the name of “law and order”? That could cause enough chaos to “force” the state into being placed under martial law and therefore under the direct control of Trump.

I’m not saying it will happen. I’m not saying it’s likely to happen even if Trump wanted to do it. But it isn’t outside the realm of possibility⁠—and that’s fucking frightening on multiple levels.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Are you talking about Trump as military mastermind? Because the reality would be more crude: send random troops and random (non-white and poor) places in random Democratic States and wish for the best (i.e. finding as more people to imprison as possible, preferably immigrates but who cares).

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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I’m not saying Trump is a mastermind. He’s a fucking idiot.

But there are people working under him who are at least marginally smarter than him, and some of them would be willing (and able) to push and poke and prod him into giving his approval for these sorts of things. Stephen Miller, for example, would probably have immigrant-heavy sections of the country carpetbombed if he could.

Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

Re: Re: pretty substantial odds

whether the military would obey such orders. My heart wants to believe they wouldn’t; my head knows there’s a chance they might.

Having observed the military arriving in California and working with ICE and other federal forces, I feel pretty confident that the military would obey orders to kill civilians. The question is more whether they will wait for such orders.

Anonymous Coward says:

Why isn’t the media talking about Posse Comitatus, specifically related to the Marines being deployed?

Isn’t it blatantly illegal to deploy military troops within the borders of the US?

Are we just waiting for some entity to challenge the act in court?

Why is the media not taking this opportunity to educate the public?

Anonymous Coward says:

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Isn’t it blatantly illegal to deploy military troops within the borders of the US?

No. If the presence of military troops is specifically requested by the state’s governor, that’s A-OK. What’s a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act is when the nation’s president calls in the troops without the state governor’s approval, but when has the Orange Felon ever bothered to follow the law?

Uriel-238 (profile) says:

Re: "Why isn’t the media talking about..."

Here: Part 1 and Part 2 of Behind the Bastards: How The Liberal Media Helped Fascism Win which provides an excellent deep dive on the phenomenon.

TLDR: MEDIA AGENCIES ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS even liberal or left wing agencies will not report on anything that jeopardizes their own power, and that of the ownership class that, well, owns the newspapers / radio stations / studio buildings, etc.

They want your ears, but don’t want you to take action.

terribly tired (profile) says:

We’re about one shake of a dead insurance exec away from finding out whether the US armed forces are patriots in fact, or only in name.

I have precisely zero doubt thousands of them will happily murder non-whites (and white ‘libruls’) at point-blank, but it’ll be interesting to see whether any others interfere if it gets to that point.

John85851 (profile) says:

What happened to the individuals

Even if Trump orders soldiers to fire on American civilians, the soldiers are individuals. Why don’t they stand up to illegal or immoral orders? Are they really afraid they’ll lose their job if they dont shoot a protester?
After all, history shows that the old “I was just following orders” never holds up.

Uriel-238 (profile) says:

Re: "I was just following orders"

You don’t want to be the guy who instigated an anti-war protest folk song.

And if you, a USMC rifleman, gun down a protestor without clear cause, then yes, your name and shame will be remembered for a long, long time.

Incidentally, USMC crowd-control training circa 1970 and 1980 highlighted Kent State as an example of what to do, and I have little doubt it’s still in there as an example of don’t be that guy.

I will admit that all divisions of the armed forces make every unit very aware they’ll be jolly sorry if they ever disobey an order, even an illegal one. But they’re also trained as to what orders are illegal so they can be prosecuted along with their superiors. It’s the kind of sublime legal grey zone that might have been discussed by Joseph Heller, if he ever wrote a novel about life in the military.

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Anonymous Coward says:

The left is so full of it, trying to spin everything into race. The South Africans were let in because they were vetted properly first. Second, they hold a lot of the same values that we do. Third, they speak english. They also came to our country holding American flags and not foreign flags such as the ones you see in LA.

Uriel-238 (profile) says:

Re: "Conservative voters don't get a pass"

The conservative intelligentsia in the late 1970s knew that by using the Moral Majority and their obsession on abortion access to get Reagan into office would lay the rails to fascist autocracy.

So when our geriatric officials stand there aghast of what they have wrought, they not only bought the ticket to ride, but invested capital to install the railroad line.

Anti-trumpers today still believe in the same policies that will lead to another cult of personality trying a coup d’etat. They just wish they were 500 miles away rather than 500 feet.

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