Trump, Republicans Have Fucked This Nation So Hard We’ve Created A New Class Of Refugees
from the making-America-ingrates-again dept
Hey, if we have to be fair (and we don’t), we can trace some of this intranational movement to policies that predate the current shitshow we’re somehow expected to believe is the host to the Leader of the Free World.
A patchwork of marijuana legalization laws has led directly to law enforcement camping out on the borders of weed-friendly states, hoping to bust (but hoping even more to steal money from) people entering those states for the sole purpose of enjoying a substance that’s currently illegal in their own state.
After the Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade was no longer good law, a new form of awfulness began. Law enforcement and local prosecutors starting arresting and bringing criminal charges against people who traveled to states where abortion was legal, rather than subject themselves to local laws outlawing their bodily autonomy.
It keeps getting worse. Florida has enacted new immigration laws that are even more draconian than Trump’s all-out war on anyone who looks less than full-on Caucasian. Those laws may have been blocked by courts, but that’s not stopping Florida from treating migrants entering the state like migrants illegally crossing US borders.
Florida, Texas, Idaho, New Hampshire: these are the main players in a recent article by The Guardian that details the experiences of people who find themselves refugees from their own former US states.
We’ll start with the story of a teacher who abandoned New Hampshire for Vermont because of the state’s efforts to erase critical race theory and other things that might inform students that white doesn’t always mean right.
John Dube, a high school teacher with 35 years of teaching under his belt, went up against local lawmakers’ attempts to ban CRT theory from being discussed in public schools. This put him in the crosshairs of far right activists, who engaged in a campaign of harassment so worrisome federal and local law enforcement stopped by to warn the teacher of what they had observed online..
The backlash was instant. Granite Grok, a local rightwing website, posted the names of all New Hampshire signatories, and within hours of that Dube received a Facebook message that read: “Whats up homo? I heard your teaching Marxist commie CRT in your classrooms. You can fuck right off you garbage human.”
Dube calmly replied that he would not be intimidated.
Within days, police officers turned up at his house, having been dispatched by the FBI. Dube’s name was circulating on obscure chatrooms frequented by violent militia members. He was urged to install security cameras at home, but when he asked why the police didn’t arrest the perpetrators of the threats, he was told that was impossible on free speech grounds.
So much for the “Live Free or Die” state. It’s now just the “Fuck Off and Die” state, heavily populated by people who believe your rights (and possibly, your life) end where their beliefs begin.
Dube has since relocated to Vermont to teach. He’s not the only one fleeing persecution and/or prosecution in his former home state due to legislation passed by Trump sycophant’s or the disturbing actions of those who support Trump and his rampant destruction of constitutional rights.
The Guardian article also tells the story of two women who left Idaho because of its draconian abortion ban. It’s not just women affected by the ban, though. The article points out two-thirds of Idaho’s fetal medicine specialists have left the state because continuing to provide the care they have for years puts them in danger of being prosecuted under the state’s abortion law.
And another person left Texas to protect their trans teen from harassment and prosecution enabled by the state’s many attacks on trans rights and LGBTQ+ speech. And it isn’t just the simple matter of relocating a family. “Sandra” (the pseudonym used by The Guardian to protect this parent from prosecution or harassment) also had to shut their business and somehow hope it can continue to provide income for their family when (or if) they manage to re-open it.
There are more anecdotes in the Guardian article, ranging from people leaving California to escape wild fires President Trump refuses to provide aid to fight or protect against to pulling up stakes to avoid being subjected to censorship efforts that target not only what content students have access to in libraries to what they’re able to learn about while in class.
If you choose to believe this is nothing more than a few people over-reacting to local policies, you are, of course, free to continue entertaining this delusion. But this is something we simply don’t expect to be happening in the United States. Sure, some people may move to find better schools or better jobs, but they rarely pull up stakes because they feel they’re local government poses a tangible, ongoing threat to their beliefs, rights, and ongoing existence.
And don’t even pretend there aren’t a lot of legislators and state leaders secretly wishing they could just throw up Berlin Walls on their borders to prevent people who disagree with their politics from seeking somewhere else to live. This is all about control of everyone, not just those who simply adore the cool touch of a boot heel to their neck. They want the people who reject their impositions to suffer the most.
Florida has already tried to create a virtual border within the United States with its law that creates new criminal charges for any undocumented immigrant entering Florida from another state. Drug warriors have long pretended the US isn’t contiguous when it comes to selective enforcement of drug laws. And as long as cops and prosecutors are trying to hunt down scofflaws who leave the state to partake of legal goods and services offered in other states, there will always be a latent desire to set up “papers, please” checkpoints on state borders. The only difference now is there are people in power who are willing to explore that option.
Filed Under: bigotry, constitutional rights, donald trump, endless parade of dipshits, florida, idaho, immigration, new hampshire, republicans, texas




Comments on “Trump, Republicans Have Fucked This Nation So Hard We’ve Created A New Class Of Refugees”
No, you’re thinking of apostrophes.
TWO-FUCKING-THIRDS of the doctors have left already?!?!
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Good. Let’s see more of this. It’s time we stopped propping up red america. Let the scum drown in their own idiocy. Menken rules are in effect, and it’s time they get what they want good and hard
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How do you think this will work? And have you seen the film Idiocracy? Be careful what you wish for.
Society can work without fetal medicine specialists—the field has only existed for about 60 years. With the abortion ban, and a general lack of sex education, there will probably be more babies overall. This increase could more than make up for the losses from emigration and, obviously, unnecessary maternal and infant mortality.
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Draining a red state of all intelligence does not mean that they don’t retain 2 senators elected by the state’s majorities to represent them.
And it retains the necessity for a federal government making decisions applying to all states and needing a basic level of acceptance there.
Proliferating the polarization is not going to solve any problem and will, at some point of time, lead to secession and/or civil war.
And it is not like it would be the first time for the U.S., but then it is no longer allowed to teach history according the best available analyses about it and its causes.
So the teaching of learning from history is being outlawed. It takes little imagination to figure what this is going to lead to, and it takes a rather large leap of faith to assume that this isn’t fully intentional.
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Idaho is a top destination state for Neo-Nazis. Done been hopeless.
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And you want to know how those stupid fuckers think they can retain them? By allowing them to deny service to anyone based on religious or firmly held beliefs.
Republicans are truly the stupidest people around these days.
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Well, it’s Idaho, I don’t expect there is so much fetal medicine specialists outer there to begin with.
Money may be the main reason. The other one is certainly that some Idaho people still thinks babies grows out of trees.
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There were, at one point in time, some relatively decent areas of Idaho.
Now it’s just one giant shithole full of ignorant fucks that hate brown people, education, women, healthcare, LGBTQ+, anyone but Christians, dental care, and libs.
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I mean, look at these stupid fucks:
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/idaho-press/senate-passes-bill-health-care-providers-participate-services-violate-beliefs/277-6d19295e-c180-4ecf-9584-5f4dda4bc1c5
It’s like watching a dog eat shit, vomit it up, and then eating it again.
Just. The. Fucking. Dumbest.
And Republicans very much voted for this.
It’s worth noting that even if you’re full-on caucasian, you can still be punished in some capacity if you suffer from wrongthink(i.e. disagree with the GOP). It happened with scientists trying to enter the US maybe two months ago, and it’s happening with the exchange students at Harvard.
Pet peeve, but this is RAS Syndrome. It’s either CR Theory or just CRT.
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I’ve learned to relax about things like this. It’s interesting to note the occurrence of these linguistic quirks, but these things happen for a reason. CRT stands for so many things that just leaving it as such won’t be as clear as indicating you’re referring to theory, but if you just say CR theory, then people who are only familiar with CRT won’t necessarily make the connection. Acronyms and initialisms tend to become their own terms regardless of the words that originally compose them. Hell, CRT doesn’t even mean what it originally meant once conservatives decided to intentionally misrepresent it and pretend law school theory was being taught to kindergartners.
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Then write the whole thing out, not the initialism followed by one-third of what it stands for.
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Yeah. Pretty much on board with this.
Always remember to blame the Trump voters as well! They are just as culpable because they re-elected him in the first place.
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The Trump voters and the non/third-party voters, as they are all equally to blame for the current disaster.
The GOP must love this trend.
The more progressives move from red/pink/purplish states to solid blue states, the more rosy the Republicans’ prospects are in the Senate.
We’re self-gerrymandering.
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This assumes they stay in the US.
I live in Australia and my new doctor is American. I have a few recently arrived American friends, some of the smartest and industrious people I have met in my life. One of them leads in my field, she works in the field but also releases groundbreaking research every few months – I don’t know where she gets the time. All of them plan to give up their US citizenship when they qualify for Aus citizenship.
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It’s all accelerating for the inevitable conflict, and I would rather we start planning for it now.
Trump’s an idiot, but…
“people leaving California to escape wild fires President Trump refuses to provide aid to fight or protect against”
There’s no protecting against fires driven by climate change and Santa Ana winds. If people are fleeing LA before the next firestorm, they’re the smart ones.
There will be plenty of climate change refugees in the future. It’s too late to save Florida for instance.
The GOP must love this.
The more that progressives move from red/pink/purple states into solid blue states, the more rosy the Republicans’ prospects are in the Senate.
We’re self-gerrymandering.
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Of course, when hundreds of thousands of individuals fled California and New York over the past few years, moving into Idaho and Texas and Florida in the process, it was no big deal.
This is exactly how the Federal system experiment is supposed to work — states are free to implement local laws. Those with good ideas lose only a small anecdotal handful of folks, and overall gain population, while states with bad ideas experience a budget shortfall crisis.
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It’s much more complicated than that, but since you want to be willfully ignorant and refuse to understand it I will try to explain it to you only once: It a combination of economic factors that may or may not be influenced by laws, along with environmental factors, such as pollution, weather, and other issues. People move to where they can afford to live, if it is possible for them to do so. Stating its only based on local laws is completely ignorant of the reality of the situation.
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Except in this case people’s wives and children can die you vile fuck
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And here he is, frantically avoiding the big fucking elephant in the room so he can excuse the inexcusable once again.
Do you even know why people moved out of California? It wasn’t because they were persecuted and feared for their lives due to fuckwit politicians and right-wing nutjobs.
You are human garbage Koby.
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“Nobody goes there anymore—It’s too crowded.”
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For a second, I’m going to ignore the idea of climate refugees and whatnot.
And what happens when those “small anecdotal handful of folks” that leave a given state are people like medical specialists who would rather leave that state than risk their future as a doctor (and a free person) by continuing to provide medical care? What happens when that “handful of folks” include teachers and librarians? What if that group includes meterologists and scientists who are trying to track climate change and weather despite pushback (and attempts at censorship) from politicians? Sure, the number of people in those groups might be small, but when they exit en masse and leave a state lacking in people with knowledge and expertise (to the point where it’s an effective brain drain), what do you think will happen to everyone else still living in that state? Because I don’t think they’re going to be better off without doctors and teachers and meterologists and other people whose expertise and skill makes society a better place. Go ahead, Koby: Tell me how a state where a woman has to drive for hours just to see an OB/GYN whose practice is already overloaded by other women in the same position—and whose practice is kneecapped by intentionally vague laws—is an overall net good to the people in that state. I’ll wait.
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Do you have any idea how utterly deranged (not to mention clueless) it is to equate entirely voluntary migration to literally fleeing explicit threats of vigilante violence and increasingly authoritarian government-legislated repression?
And then to further claim that this descent into a combination of mob rule and text-book government oppression is a good and desirable thing?
I thought Americans had this thing they were so proud of, called the American Constitution, and that it even includes something they call The Bill Of Rights… I guess I must be confusing America with some other, actually democratic nation.
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You have to rmemeber that Koby is a fascist. Whether he does fascist shit or merely enables/normalizes fascist shit is irrelevant at this point. Once you sit at a table with a Nazi, no one cares whether you tied the rope, provided the rope, or merely talked about using the rope on “undesirables”.
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That makes for a rather nice condensation of the classic A. R. Moxon quote.
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Because math, like logic and empathy, is hard for you: neither New York nor California are particularly high on the list of states for internal out migration. Plenty of red states are higher. The key here is that the absolute number is high, but the states have such a large percentage of the population, it doesn’t have much of an impact.
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You been awful quiet lately.
Ya boi Elon got chased out of DC and Trump is getting tore up in the courts.
Everything you believe in is an obvious lie.
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That was handfuls of libertarians, leaving behind states with good ideas in favor of those with lower taxes, and in the process raising the average IQs of all states involved.
It’s much more complicated than that, but since you want to be willfully ignorant and refuse to understand it I will try to explain it to you only once: It a combination of economic factors that may or may not be influenced by laws, along with environmental factors, such as pollution, weather, and other issues. People move to where they can afford to live, if it is possible for them to do so. Stating its only based on local laws is completely ignorant of the reality of the situation.
I saw a story just yesterday, about Texas law enforcement officers using the Flock license-plate reader network to locate a woman — known to be no longer in the State of Texas — who’d left the state to obtain an abortion.
That this woman was believed to have obtained an abortion, contrary to current Texas abortion law, was the explicit justification given in the license-plate tracking request form.
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Technically, their “justification” was that the family of the woman believed she had performed a self-medicated abortion and she was at risk of complications from doing so, which is why the cops went looking for her to make sure she was okay.
But yeah, the fact that they checked license plate reader info from other states to find a woman who’d had an abortion is concerning on multiple levels, not the least of which is the fact that interstate travel for access to certain medical procedures now runs the risk of being tracked by cops in states where those procedures are banned. And given how Texas has a bounty law on abortions, the idea that the cops could track a Texas woman outside of Texas—even if they have no intent to arrest her—is a fascist nightmare come to life.
This is vile, but it’s not new. LGBT people have long fled their homes for states where they felt they would be less targeted. Black people have been internal refugees since before the nation’s founding – first as freedmen and escaped slaves, then to escape the degree of segregation in the Old South, and still to this day to escape violence and persecution. “Those people” have always been targeted, and have always been forced to live like this.
If you think this is new, it’s just because the list of “those people” has expanded enough to affect you or the people you’re actually willing to care about. It’s not fascist either – it’s simply a vile form of liberal government. But just because it’s not fascist doesn’t mean it doesn’t kill people, and destroy or uproot many more lives.
Re: I know about LGBT persecution
I know for a fact about persecution of queer people such as myself in far too many US states because I read Erin in the Morning.
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Use this one instead!
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Abortion clinics can and do deploy jammers to prevent location data from being sent
Contrary to popular opinion it is legal in California for clinics to deploy jammers to protect their clientelle
California’s constitution gives the right to an abortion so using jammers for that purpose does not break any law in California
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Hey, asshole: Go spread your bullshit on 4chan. A bunch of people over there are dumb enough to actually buy it.
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It’s not legal anywhere, from a federal law. So of course California doesn’t outlaw it.
Might as well throw yourself into a running woodchipper...
Those laws may have been blocked by courts, but that’s not stopping Florida from treating migrants entering the state like migrants illegally crossing US borders.
Wait wait wait, there are still people insane enough to willingly go to florida?
Also, you ignorant fucking shit waffle:
https://hudsonvalleypost.com/florida-crisis-is-now-creating-massive-problems-for-new-york/
We wouldn’t have to teach CRT (which, really, was mostly a law school thing until the shit human brigade blew it up) if people like you would stop being people like you, but you keep on being even more like people like you.