Musk’s Takeover Of The Government’s Computer Systems Needs To Be Understood As A Cyberattack, Or Worse
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People sometimes think that cybersecurity is just about defending computer systems from remote adversaries. But it’s broader than that; cybersecurity has always been about protecting computer systems more generally from any sort of misuse, no matter how the adversary might access them.
So that Elon Musk and his minions have managed to walk right into government offices to take over computer systems where they had no legitimate authorization or entitlement needs to be understood as a cyberattack by a rogue actor. And every ounce of outrage we ever would have had if any other rogue actor had taken over critical government infrastructure needs to be mustered here, because it is just as outrageous, and as dangerous, if not more so on both fronts, because this time the threat to America’s security came from within.
These systems Musk and his “team” have accessed are among the most sensitive and critical to the running of the United States of America. In the case of the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) they manage human resources. But there’s also reports that the Muskovites have taken over those computer services in the Treasury Department and Governments Services Administration (GSA), which spends the country’s multi-trillion dollar budget to pay America’s bills, and USAID, which handles a lot of highly classified information affecting our nation’s standing in the world. Yet here is Musk, a man who regularly chats with Vladimir Putin, with access to it all, if not also outright control.
Even if it’s true that he and his team of random bros currently cannot actually stop payments of the government’s bills themselves (and it’s unclear whether they are indeed so limited given how Musk appears to claim that they are not), they now have access to the most sensitive details of the entirety of America’s government workforce, including those in foreign service, including in countries that Putin has his eye on.
They know their names. They know their addresses. They know their backgrounds, careers, their spouses and dependents. They know absolutely every single detail about these people that would be captured in an HR system. And because OPM is involved with managing security clearances, they know plenty more private details about our nation’s public servants captured in the process of doing their background checks.
And over at the other departments, like those that handle things like making payments to things like Social Security recipients, they know all every recipient’s social security numbers too, if not even more information about everyone that the government pays.
Meanwhile, we know little to nothing about his team. Even some names are unknown, let alone the full range of their affiliations, which we usually ask about before giving anyone access to the country’s most sensitive information. They have had zero vetting and in many cases no known security clearance (and, in the case of Musk, there were limits to his, which was already in jeopardy). It is also not clear whether Musk or his minions even have known jobs in the government themselves, for which such vetting would ordinarily have been required before entrusting them with access to such systems. Without those jobs they have no plausible claim to having the appropriate authority needed to have access to these systems, or even the buildings. (No, it’s not something that becomes ok just because the President says its ok. There are laws that limit his ability to make delegations like this, and for just this sort of reason: to make sure the public remains protected from arbitrary exercises of executive power that may not be in the country’s interests.)
They are a bunch of strangers who have essentially busted into government offices and strong-armed the career staff there into giving them access to all these systems with all this critical function and data. Systems that it has heretofore been the priority of the United States government to protect because of their sensitivity and how vulnerable the nation would be if an adversary could access them.
And yet here we are, where that very thing we’ve feared, passed law to punish, and spent countless dollars trying to prevent — a cyberattack — has just happened.
The response needs to be more than just a shrug. The nation’s infrastructure has just been attacked by the prototypical example of a rogue actor, acting lawlessly, with openly declared hostile intent aiming to disrupt the operation of the nation’s government as the people, expressed through acts of Congress, wanted their government to operate.
What has happened needs to be understood that way, in these gravest of terms, in order to provoke the appropriate response from any still-legitimate organs of American government, which must be as swift and powerful as any time when America’s homeland security has been attacked.
It is bitterly ironic that Congress and the courts spent all that effort gnashing and wailing and tearing up the Constitution over the potential threat posed to America’s national security interests by TikTok, when we were just going to simply hand over the keys to the kingdom the very next week to the guy who owns Twitter.
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Comments on “Musk’s Takeover Of The Government’s Computer Systems Needs To Be Understood As A Cyberattack, Or Worse”
I’m going to be laughing so hard as the entire US government is sold to our enemies.
Elon and a bunch of random private citizens now have access to data every country wants to buy.
Re: Ok, Boomer
Or should I say “Ok, laughing traitor.”
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I voted against it. I’m laughing with them, at the absurdity of the situation into which we’ve run headlong.
You might have an easier time understanding, were every instance of gallows humor not shouted down as “doomposting.”
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and there’s the troll
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Would you please leave this site? Your spam isn’t productive, insightful, or funny. It’s just spam—and nobody likes a spammer.
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The doomposting hasn’t been gallows humor. It’s been missing all humor, except to a troll who’s punching down instead of up.
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I’m really not inclined to trust your judgement on the matter.
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How do you know they are citizens and not half-cooked AI?
Because we still don’t know what Musk really is.
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He’s the Apartheid oligarch who now controls US payment systems.
Re: Random?
Before I undersign “random”, I’d like to see the stats of how many of those participating in physically enforcing access have recently received pardons.
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/follow-the-money-trump-musk-market-reaction-tariffs-canada-mexico-nyse-dow-sp500-treasury
To quote JVL (from last night)…
“Does this sound to you like a situation that could potentially end with Musk attempting to disintermediate the ACH system and route all electronic transfers—including all transfers made by the federal government—through his private company?”
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I literally voted for this
Hillary Clinton opened up her classified emails to the entire internet, was never charged. This, at least, was authorized.
This is what I want to happen, needs to happen, yes “to drain the swamp”. Be quiet, you lost the election, elections have consequences.
Re: You couldn't have
You couldn’t have voted for this because it is not lawful or constitutional, and this election was only for the office of president as lawfully and constitutionally defined.
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It is both those things, actually. They HAVE security clearances (because Trump gave them clearances). They have authorization to do this.
The ENTIRE administrative branch sits under the president, ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTION.
You uneducated and ignorant, whining about the results of an election you don’t understand.
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Why does Elon need sensitive information about payments made by USAID—including information that could be useful to foreign governments that want to root out Americans working to advance, say, civil rights for marginalized groups and information that he could weaponize against competitors to his business interests?
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To find the fraud, dumb@ass. He has apparently found quite a lot.
Yeah, ok, cry “bigot” one more time, maybe that will change the election.
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And how do you know that is the only thing he’s doing with the information he has? How can you trust a man who lies about paying people to play video games for him?
That you think the U.S. working to help marginalized people in other countries is a bad thing makes me think you’ve got the exact same feelings about apartheid as Elon Musk. (Hint: He liked apartheid so much that he’s trying to help make it happen in the U.S.)
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You sound like an idiot. I trust Musk more than 99.9% of elected politicians. Again, I literally voted for this. Elections have consequences.
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You explicitly and in full faith trust a man who takes credit for playing video games that he pays people to play for him? That’s the kind of shit you shouldn’t be admitting to the cops and you’re out here admitting it to complete strangers on the Internet for the world to see. Th’fuck is wrong with you, son.
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Didn’t you live is Australia last week bro?
You can’t even keep your shit lies straight.
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No, that was the goat-fucker who thought it was a good idea to adopt Bratty Matty’s name because it’s sooo edgy. At least that fucker is smarter and can make a whole sentence without using stupid frat-bro shorthand.
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This must be the one likes kiddie porn then, but honestly, all predafiles sound the same to me.
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Key bit there “other countries”. The thing is this foreign aid isn’t really about helping starving people in Africa or whatever, it’s a slush fund. It’s funneled through NGOs back into the pockets of Americans who pushed for the spending in the first place. That’s the Grift. And it’s all stopping now.
Cry about it.
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“Cry about it.”
I mean you are the expert in the field.
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Wow, you talk about these claims with such authority. It must be a well known problem that has been ruled on by dozens of different courts, sending tons of these grifters to jail. Please give me your top ten proven cases, that should be a good example that is easy for you to present to strengthen your position to match the rather extraordinary claim being made.
Oh, and what is the name of the forensic accounting firm that Mr President Musk is using to find these cases? I assume he isn’t turning to the IRS or other Federal organizations so he probably has a well known and respected firm on payroll to handle the presumed evidence, glean details, preserve records for the eventual court cases while the undeniable facts are used to shape global US policy, all that sort of things. The labor charges must be huge already so that obviously needs to be accounted for in the budget for DOGE.
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You can cuss in the internet bro.
Here lemme show ya.
I blew a load on your moms lower back tattoo of Leon after I fucked her in the ass.
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Bigot.
Now what, bigot?
That’s twice.
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It’s just meaningless and you sound like an idiot.
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“Reeeeeetaaaardd”
Oh do please continue to be the arbiter of taste around here you fucking numpty.
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We’re not the ones crying because we’re on the winning side, ignorant bigot.
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So what are their job titles?
What process is a high schooler who was an intern using to ruin people’s lives?
None of these people are government employees.
Re: Re: Re: Princess tiny dick is ironically big mad y’all
Why you so mad, if this is what you want?
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Fuck you Matty.
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We can still highlight how you’re fucking up. Your guys haven’t gotten rid of the First Amendment yet.
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Would you mind telling us about Elon Musk’s formal role in the United States federal government, such as his actual job title and what federal government power he actually wields? Last time I checked, being the “co-president” or doing things authorized by Trump doesn’t actually give Musk any actual power in the government.
And by the by: If Jeff Bezos had done something like this during the Biden administration, you would’ve been up in arms and ready to fight, so why is it that when a racist South African billionaire grabs control of part of the United States federal government without any oversight or actual authority, you think that’s fine and dandy?
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He’s an outside contractor (those are a thing) for $0 with the highest level security clearance (cuz again, Trump can just hand those out) doing work as contracted by the administrative branch.
Reeeeeetaaaardd.
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Two things.
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No wonder you support their use. How do you know that no one with an intellectual disability posts here, giving the slur you complained of real power?
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Tell us again how much you don’t care about us bro.
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No he mutherFucking Can Not asshole.
You wouldn’t survive 24h of a background check.
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It’s naïve to think “actual power” has anything to do with a “formal role”. Look up “realpolitik”; all that matters is what people can do, and can get away with, not what some documents say they should do.
Hell, the U.S. title of “President” was intentionally chosen to be humble, on the basis that this person would merely preside over those with actual power. Things change. If presidents start delegating authority to the wealthiest U.S. citizen, that could become an official role, as with the “Office of the First Lady”.
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Paste-eaters during a famine: “Finally, my day has come!”
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She was an elected official at the time. No one doing this now is.
That you cannot comprehend the difference is amazing
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Jesus that buttery emails is so old it’s collecting a pension.
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She.
Did.
Not.
Her email server was hosted publicly which means it was the people sending her emails that violated the law. Not her.
This also has been a long term practice, including many Republican appointed SoS and staff.
http://oversightdemocrats.house.gov/news/press-releases/state-ig-confirms-longstanding-and-widespread-personal-email-use-by-secretaries
Further, Bush had an email server that was hosted by the RNC who lost some 22 million emails.
In last Trump admin many of his cabinet use private emails.
You don’t give a flying fuck about emails.
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Ken, I’ll take “things that never happened” for $1000.
Hillary did use a private email server for official business, which was bad. But that is not the same thing as “opening up her classified emails to the entire internet.”
Similarly, many Trump officials have done the exact same thing:
https://americanoversight.org/investigation/the-trump-administrations-questionable-email-practices/
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/18/federal-officials-nervous-about-sending-data-to-trump-transition-private-emails-00195217
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/21/their-emails-seven-members-trumps-team-have-used-unofficial-communications-tools/
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/emails-team-trumps-private-emails-spark-concerns-rcna185052
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/cummings-jared-kushner-and-ivanka-trumps-private-emails-texts-raise-security-concerns
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/us/politics/private-email-trump-kushner-bannon.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ivanka-trump-used-a-personal-email-account-to-send-hundreds-of-emails-about-government-business-last-year/2018/11/19/6515d1e0-e7a1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html
Funny how you don’t seem concerned about any of them.
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The noisiest sore losers on the planet did not agree to “be quiet” after Trump lost. Democracy does not begin and end at elections. Nobody should ever stop participating because their preferred candidate lost.
All the more reason for to make as much noise as possible when those consequences turn out to be a quiet coup taking place.
Russian and Chinese hackers were dreaming about accessing US Treasure computers for decades, Elon has done it in just two weeks. That’s efficiency!
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I think it’s safe to assume the Russians and Chinese followed immediately on his coattails, too. I can’t imagine his little gang of incel hackers plugging shit in willy-nilly and fucking around are taking appropriate security measures to ensure they’re the last threat actor to breach the US gov’s systems. Some guy in China probably just ssh’d into someone’s laptop with a default password and came along for the ride.
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I am not convinced that Musk isn’t Russia and China’s latest attempt of taking over the U.S.
For every puppet, there is a puppeteer. The drugs that Musk openly admits taking are not government-issued and controlled. At least not by the U.S. government.
A much easier side door access to the U.S. crown jewels.
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Did Someone Lose Their NGO Funding ?
There’s one thing that was apparently forgotten: Trump won the election. DOGE could only be viewed as an intruder or stranger by someone who views the government as being unaccountable to elected officials.
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…thinks that a non-government organization getting its hands on sensitive (and even classified) U.S. information for reasons known only to the private citizen billionaire who leads that NGO, and with only the say-so of the president to give him any kind of authority to do that, seems legally sketchy at best.
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So which elected officials are making the changes?
It seems to be an unelected immigrant and his sycophants including ex students and interns.
I’m looking forward to hearing about your family being ruined after all the cuts.
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The Department of Government Efficiency is a department in name only, because only Congress can establish federal government offices. Congress didn’t do that with DOGE.
In other words, Musk is not an official government employee and is therefore not authorized to do what he’s currently doing.
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Fuck off reek. It’s crybitches day to get the attention.
Something needs to be done, but I’m not sure what can, or is, or WILL be done at this point.
But I’m also far from an expert in how the US government works, but it certainly doesn’t take expertise to see how blatantly stupid letting techbros run the government is.
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HAHAHA YOU ARE DERANGED.
RUN__A__BETTER__CANDIDATE__NEXT__TIME!
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Hey heaps it’s time for our meds and if you don’t stop shitting yourself you won’t get dessert.
Where are the U.S. Attorneys when you need them?
Wasn’t Aaron Swartz prosecuted for doing a lot less than this? Where are the U.S. Attorneys when you need them?
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Your asking about the attorneys that report up to Trump eventually?
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Sending letters to Elon Musk, saying they’ll support him doing whatever he wants.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/02/03/martin-supports-for-musk-doge/
Re: Fired.
The ones that oppose Trump and his gang are being fired; the others are licking boots or browning their noses.
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Correction: the ones who are following the law when doing their job are being fired. It is not a political stance when you are administering the law irrespective of who you may find to be in conflict of it. It is one of work ethics.
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Too busy still covering themselves after their malicious prosecution of Aaron Swartz and his resultant death.
To the people who love to attack every negative comment with “shut up doomposter”, can you tell me what the hell do we do this time because at the moment the only possible solution to this problem is to submit ourselves to a fate of being bullet sponges.
The people (republicans) who could do something want this to happen, the few democrats trying are being ignored.
I have a security clearance, you do not.
The President cannot authorize clearances. It guess through a board with months of background checks. Hell, the FBI talked to be friends in highschool.
Stop with the Magic Wand thinking. It’s fucking illegal.
And instead of working with private, legally protected data, for a change, all I was doing at the time was ordinance testing.
Between the two jobs of high energy molecules, and personal days, the latter is much, Much more sensitive.
Somewhere on this planet is a tree that replaces all of the oxygen you waste. You should find that tree, and apologize.
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Not entirely sure who you’re yelling at.
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Are you sure about that? Based on what Wikipedia says, maybe the President can’t directly grant clearances regarding nuclear weapons; the Department of Energy grants those, per the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (but who do you think appoints the director of that executive-branch agency?). In other areas, it looks like it’s mostly executive orders dictating the policies.
Normally, sure. Because the presidents of the past decided it would be that way, and wrote it into executive orders. For those orders to be legal, they’d presumably have to be delegating powers that the President already has.
By the way, here’s an American Bar Association page about declassification, stating:
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In that last quote block, the part after “protected” was meant to be outside the block. It’s not part of the linked page.
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Actually, he already did that on Day 1 (aka Dictator Day).
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/21/politics/trump-temporary-security-clearances/index.html
And thanks to Trump v. United States, 603 U.S. 593 (2024), the granting of such clearances would be an official act, the President has absolute immunity if such grantabwere illegal.
More so, Musk amd his minions are “special employees” of the White House, so there’s no need to worry about having DOJ or some other agency involvment.
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Even without that, the President can pardon anyone charged with mishandling classified data. (And there’s still an open question of whether one could pardon oneself—like for illegally granting clearances.)
Unfortunately, those who are sworn to defend the country from enemies foreign and domestic will need to step in, although at scale, that rarely seems to work for the better.
Straight out of “Consider Phlebas” by Iain M. Banks – the Culture Minds eventually “won” by subverting the Idiran computer network.
Good article! Some additional framing...
While this is indeed a cyberattack, I don’t think that definition fully covers it. We need to view this as cyberterrorism, more appropriately – which tends toward disrupting critical infrastructure (not just sensitive information theft) and is designed to cripple countries & bring nation states to their knees.
Musk is shutting down services in order to cause a nationwide outage and financial losses for states, businesses, and individuals.
Offices like USAID being attacked and bricked off make this an act of GLOBAL cyberterrorism by one man with a vendetta against his apartheid-ending nemesis, the United States. Ending crucial programs that keep people healthy and housed will result in bodily harm and loss of life.
We’ve seen exfiltration of massive troves of private data (stealing PII, financial records, health information). With this information, he can continue to hold the US hostage and extort the country.
I’m extremely worried that the CIA appears to be sleeping on this.
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“I’m extremely worried that the CIA appears to be sleeping on this.”
or…
the CIA is complicit in this.