Musk Denies Email Admitting To ExTwitter’s Struggles, But Banks’ Desperation Tells A Different Story

from the baghdad-bob-in-action dept

For the past couple of years, Elon has tried all sorts of ways to publicly claim that things are going great since his purchase of Twitter, even as basically everyone knows that he’s the emperor with no clothes on that one.

He’s been claiming that traffic and usage are at “all-time” highs, despite little outside evidence to support that and plenty to suggest otherwise. Indeed, a closer look at the stats he reported shows that, when put into context, they actually point to a massive decline in users. And, of course, it’s well-documented that advertisers have abandoned the platform in droves. The bankers who backed the deal, despite its rather obvious problems, have admitted that it’s probably the worst buyout of all-time.

Yes, Elon has leveraged his position as First Troll (along with hundreds of millions of dollars in political donations) into a position of power in the Trump administration, but that doesn’t seem to have helped right the sinking ship that was once called Twitter.

Buried somewhat in a Wall Street Journal article about the banks desperately trying to unload the Elon Twitter debt they’re holding is the claim that Elon has admitted in internal emails that he’s basically destroyed what once was Twitter as a business:

In a January email to staff, Musk pointed to the company’s growing influence and power, but said the finances remain problematic.

“Our user growth is stagnant, revenue is unimpressive, and we’re barely breaking even,” he said in the email, which was reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

After that quote started to get some attention, Elon took to ExTwitter to deny having sent that email:

While the MAGA crowd often claims the mainstream media “makes up” critical stories about their heroes, that’s simply not how outlets like the Wall Street Journal operate. The Journal, in particular, is known for its conservative editorial slant, so it would have little reason to fabricate an anti-Musk story. A reporter being misled is possible but would be quite surprising.

More telling is that Elon doesn’t actually deny the underlying claims about stagnant user growth or unimpressive revenue. Though, I doubt the company is even remotely close to breaking even.

Given the company’s well-documented struggles, it is absolutely believable that user growth is stagnant and revenue is unimpressive.

The article also details how the banks are trying to unload the loans for pennies on the dollar. But… there have been reports of them trying to unload this debt for two years now. As the article notes, normally the banks would offload such debt within weeks or months, but they’ve been unable to do so with these toxic Twitter loans:

Banks don’t finance acquisitions intending to hold the buyout debt for long; usually, they will arrange a sale to outside debt investors within months of their commitment to finance the deal. But in volatile periods, when fewer investors are lining up as buyers, banks will opt to hold on to the loans for longer stretches to avoid selling it at a discount, locking in losses. 

With the X debt, the banks have waited—and waited—for a moment when both the markets and the company’s financial health would open the window to sell without huge losses.

They might have to keep waiting. It really sounds like the banks believe now is probably their last chance to get rid of the debt before the losses get even bigger. They’re likely betting that Elon’s closeness to Trump (for now) will make the debt more appealing to investors looking to curry favor with the administration.

In other words, the banks seem to be hoping that Elon’s current political clout carries over to the toxic assets associated with him.

Of course, that’s making a bet that Elon and Trump will remain aligned, which is possible, but is certainly no guarantee.

In the end, no amount of trolling or Trump-flattering may be enough to save ExTwitter from the hole Elon has dug for it. The banks seem to have realized this and are now scrambling to cut their losses. It remains to be seen whether Elon himself will ever be able to actually admit defeat and take responsibility for running one of the internet’s most influential platforms into the ground as a personal vanity project.

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Matthew M Bennett says:

You need community notes!

Seriously, your fantasy life is rich.

While the MAGA crowd often claims the mainstream media “makes up” critical stories about their heroes, that’s simply not how outlets like the Wall Street Journal operate.

There are numerous documented instances of exactly that happening. Particularly, for some reason, whenever Trump is in office.

Or I guess Biden, too, cuz how many journalists had to have personal knowledge of his condition and lied about that? “Sharp as a tack!”

But then again, you’re still lying and claiming that the FBI and CDC didn’t censor by proxy.

You’re fake news.

MrWilson (profile) says:

Re:

Seriously, your fantasy life is rich.

Considering you keep returning to a site you admit you don’t like in order to spew utter bullshit that you can never prove just to get bashed in the comments, this is the epitome of irony and hypocrisy.

As we like to say, every accusation is a confession. We’ll see you next time you have a new hallucination about Mike.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Something the size of Twitter takes a while to go belly-up.

I have no special knowledge of Twitter or their bank loan situation, but I have been privy to the details of similar (albeit smaller) deals. These types of bank loans often have a strict 5-year term. Not that it’s paid off over 5 years like a car loan, but that the entire remaining balance is due at the end of the term. In many cases, it can be renegotiated and extended for another few years, but no bank is going to do business with Twitter in its current form.

A full, overnight crash-and-burn bankruptcy is quite possible in the second half of 2027.

Bloof (profile) says:

We all know the banks are going to take massive losses on this, and they likely do too. They’re more than happy with losing billions so Elon can use it as a right wing propaganda mill as they’ll more than make the money back when Trump strips away the few remaining protections against another 2008 style crash and they can gamble as much as they want again without having any regulations to stand in their way.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: The only way to win is not to play.

If banking restrictions are lifted, these banks would engage in risky behavior, and thus are more likely to fail.

If the banking restrictions are not lifted, the bad debts will damage them severely.

It’s a good time to review one’s risk profile. FDIC only covers losses to a certain extent (unless you’re a bank of rich tech-bros … I’m looking at you, SVB!). Best to check if your accounts exceed those limits.

… and maybe move your assets to another bank.

70% of debt owned by:
* Morgan Stanley
* Bank of America
* Barclays Plc
and 30% by:
* Mitsubishi UFJ
* BNP Paribas
* Mizuho
* Societe Generale

Writing down $2bn of debt still means losses in the hundreds of millions for the top three there.

Anonymous Coward says:

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I really, REALLY like this idea: watching Musk’s fanboys go broke would be be hilarious.

More seriously: in addition to all the reasons mentioned why banks are having trouble unloading this debt, there’s another: instability. Debt purchasers know they’re speculating and they’re prepared for the possibility they’ll lose money on the deal (and can use that as a tax write-off), but they’re NOT prepared for the possibility that that the debt will change value abruptly downwards because the CEO is a psychotic moron with no impulse control. They like predictable and steady, even if it’s predictable and steady decline, because they can plan for that. They don’t like chaotic, and Musk’s erratic, irrational, and unpredictable behavior is textbook chaotic.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

The chaos applies to everyone. Users. Advertisers.

Someone might be able to plan for a steady decline in a platform. Many platforms decline over time and largely predictably. Someone doesn’t want to wake up to the CEO inserting himself in every feed or impulsively deciding to censor a competitor.

Even the way policies are handled, the company could issue a generic announcement about privacy and roll out a policy normally. If the jet account is taken down, that would simply be part of the implementation of the policy. You could agree or disagree with the policy.

Instead, you got Elon bragging about how he will allow the jet account on then screaming about “assassination co-ordinates”.

Anonymous Coward says:

“In other words, the banks seem to be hoping that Elon’s current political clout carries over to the toxic assets associated with him.

Of course, that’s making a bet that Elon and Trump will remain aligned, which is possible, but is certainly no guarantee.”

As things are looking and going by Project 2025, it’s unlikely they will. Musk isn’t going to do a sudden political shift, but he wasn’t part of the Project and I’ve my doubts they’re going to let him be part of things to come – same thing goes for Zuckerberg and everybody else. I’d bet a hat that all those millions companies like Spotify, Microsoft, Google and whoever else donated accomplished diddly squat for their political goodwill.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'Why can't we sell this radioactive, toxic waste, it's on sale!'

Such a shame…

I pity any of the bank members who had nothing to do with the deal and yet might be screwed by it, but as for the execs who signed off on the deal? Yeah, they knew what they were getting into and I hope it hurts to see all that money go up in toxic smoke after they made what should have been the most obvious bad investment deal of the decade.

Narcissus (profile) says:

Re: Not so sure

He’s worth what now? 400 Billion? Should be easy right?

I’m actually not so sure. Most of his money/value is in Tesla stock. The valuation of that stock is based on quicksand, especially since lately the sales numbers are looking a bit iffy. Remember, the stock is valuated as if Tesla is worth much more than any of the established brands, like Toyota or Volkswagen. Also left-leaning people that bought Teslas are looking at Musk and his actions and wonder what electric vehicles the competition offers, which are now many.

For some reason, probably because of his political antics, the value of Tesla is holding up and even increased after Trumps victory. Will the value still hold up if Musk has to sale a couple dozen billions of Tesla stock to pay back the banks? Not sure.

Tanner Andrews (profile) says:

Another possibility

Twitter may be circling the drain, but the underlying internet seems to be holding up for now. Perhaps a few of the former twitter folks who know how it works could set up a new platform after twitter is irrelevant or gone.

Proably cannot call it Xitter, that name may be an asset to be disposed in the BK sale.

Call the new platform twatter, use a butterfly logo, and see if dollar bills flutter in from advertisers. Maybe buy some of those surplused servers from where Elmo pulled the plug, they should be cheap.

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