FTC Orders ‘Gun Detection’ Tech Maker Evolv To Stop Overstating Effectiveness Of Its Glorified Metal Detectors
from the same-old-stuff-only-much-more-expensive dept
Updated: This post has been updated, as the original potentially overclaimed both what the FTC settlement said regarding what Evolv could market as well as Evolv’s response to it (suggesting it would try to limit the settlement it agreed to). We regret the misleading descriptions and have updated the article accordingly.
Evolv might be new to the game but it’s already made a name for itself. And not a good one.
It was an integral part of New York City Mayor Eric Adams’ ongoing run of public failures. The mayor announced Evolv would be placing its “gun detection” tech in the city’s subways, despite the public admission of Evolv CEO Peter George (during a call with investors) that the tech wouldn’t work all that well in subways.
“Subways, in particular, are not a place that we think is a good use case for us,” George said, due to the “interference with the railways.”
He probably meant interference from the railways, but the end result of Evolv’s trial run could probably be described as “interference with the railways” just as accurately.
A pilot program testing AI-powered weapons scanners inside some New York City subway stations this summer did not detect any passengers with firearms — but falsely alerted more than 100 times, according to newly released police data.
Through nearly 3,000 searches, the scanners turned up more than 118 false positives as well as 12 knives, police said, though they declined to say whether the positive hits referred to illegal blades or tools, such as pocket knives, that are allowed in the transit system.
On one hand, CEO Peter George definitely didn’t oversell the tech’s effectiveness when he expressed his reluctance to deploy it in city subways. On the other hand, it would appear Evolv’s sales force has overstated the tech’s effectiveness so often, the Federal Trade Commission has been forced to step in. Here’s more from Matthew Guariglia and Cooper Quintin of the EFF:
The Federal Trade Commission has entered a settlement with self-styled “weapon detection” company Evolv, to resolve the FTC’s claim that the company “knowingly” and repeatedly” engaged in “unlawful” acts of misleading claims about their technology. Essentially, Evolv’s technology, which is in schools, subways, and stadiums, does far less than they’ve been claiming.
The FTC alleged in their complaint that despite the lofty claims made by Evolv, the technology is fundamentally no different from a metal detector: “The company has insisted publicly and repeatedly that Express is a ‘weapons detection’ system and not a ‘metal detector.’ This representation is solely a marketing distinction, in that the only things that Express scanners detect are metallic and its alarms can be set off by metallic objects that are not weapons.”
Evolv is selling metal detectors with some unproven AI stapled to them. Because there’s AI involved, the company has no qualms about selling its metal detectors for up to five times the going rate of regular, non-AI-tainted metal detectors. If customers balk at the markup, that’s where the salespeople step in to, apparently, overstate the accuracy of Evolv’s tech and its presumed effectiveness in reducing violent crime by detecting weapons.
Here’s what the settlement [PDF] prevents Evolv from making misrepresentations about in its marketing materials, advertising, or anything connected with pitching its products to potential customers:
A. the ability to detect weapons;
B. the ability to ignore harmless personal items;
C. the ability to detect weapons while ignoring harmless personal items;
D. the ability to ignore harmless personal items without requiring visitors to remove any such items from pockets or bags;
E. weapons detection accuracy, including in comparison to the use of metal detectors;
F. false alarm rates, including comparisons to the use of metal detectors;
G. the speed at which visitors can be screened, as compared to the use of metal detectors;
H. labor costs, including comparisons to the use of metal detectors;
I. testing, or the results of any testing; or
J. any material aspect of its performance, efficacy, nature, or central characteristics, including, but not limited to, the use of algorithms, artificial intelligence, or other automated systems or tools
It also instructs the company to inform all of its educational facility customers that they can cancel their contracts immediately and pay only what’s owed through the point the contract is cancelled.
The only upside for Evolv is that this settlement only applies to its Evolv Express product and only to its marketing to customers in the educational field. It’s still open season elsewhere, but this settlement contains admissions by the company that it misled these particular customers, which should make other potential customers in other areas (hospitals, subways, etc.) far more wary of trusting Evolv’s effectiveness assertions.
Filed Under: ftc, gun detection tech, nyc, settlement
Companies: evolv
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Comments on “FTC Orders ‘Gun Detection’ Tech Maker Evolv To Stop Overstating Effectiveness Of Its Glorified Metal Detectors”
You know what else detects guns? An MRI machine. They also grab onto other things, but they customer doesn’t need to know that. Perhaps someone should make a startup that sells powerful electromagnets and sell them to the MTA to put in the turnstiles. It’ll forcefully remove the guns from any would-be criminals!
Re: There's a plan!
Not only will those big magnets forcefully remove the guns from would-be criminals, they would demagnetize the credit and ATM cards and hotel room keys for all those ne’er-do-wells…and everyone else, for that matter (the strips still work as back-up for the chips). Let’s not forget that we’ll show those bad guys that crime never pays by ripping their phones out of their pockets! And screw your pacemaker, we have to get the guns! Collateral damage to all the innocents is a small price to pay to create an orderly society!
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You mean the magnetic strips?
“Through nearly 3,000 searches, the scanners turned up more than 118 false positives”
Mission Accomplished, it’s the new stop ‘n frisk
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….. New York’s extreme gun laws don’t achieve their advertised results either, but the Federal government never sanctions politicians for making phony claims about their policies and legislaton
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I’m curious about how the NY gun laws are extreme when compared with some other undisclosed place who also has some unknown level of gun control.
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Weird how gun control doesn’t work well across open state borders. Sounds like we need extreme gun laws at the federal level!
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Strange how I feel far safer here than in Bumfuck, Texas. It’s not just feelings, I lived here for 42 years of my life. If I’m not a health insurance exec, I should be fine.
Maybe call it what it is...
I have to think some of the issue is companies falsely advertising LLM’s as AI.
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This is state of the art AI:
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I was under the impression that LLM was considered to be a type of AI.
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Less “Artificial Intelligence”, more “Automated Stupidity”
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You, and a lot of people because of lazy reporting and lying/overhype by corporations.
With everything else they could say rules out, Evolv’s new marketing will just say “Evolv, apply directly to the forehead”
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Pretty much how I utilise my palm, every time a new story about them comes out.
Wait til Evolv unleashes its “guaranteed 100% effective” criminal detection system.
That turns out to be based entirely on skin color.
Everyone wants something done now now now but they never seem to understand that demanding it now now now means it will be wrong wrong wrong. But then the program is so popular, even as its failing miserably, no one dares tries improve it.
They need to punish the NYC leadership for bothering with a tech, even the fscking vendor said wouldn’t work (do you understand how this NEVER happens??), but they still went forward with it & expect they aren’t going to be crucified for giving people false hope.
Of course, there is still the detection failure with ceramic or plastic blade knifes, but the technology is not even virtually close to such a detail.
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Not to mention the near-plastic materials used in 3D printers that can make usable guns in a matter of moments, on demand.
And have we all already forgotten exactly how a zip gun is made?
Weapons detection, my ass!
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What is the barrel made of?
we have to get the guns!
and those who have magnetic (stainless steel) stents implanted in the arteries around our hearts. We’re warned, starting before the implantation and continuing for the remainder of our lives, that getting near an MRI machine can be fatal.
If gun detectors are meant to save lives, it’d be the ultimate irony to have those same machines take an occasional life. Or did you imagine that every subway entrance will have a sign stating “Warning! No persons with heart conditions may enter. Doing so may cause severe harm or even death.”
I think that the solution to the gun problem is to require a biometric lock on all firearms, so that ONLY the owner or other authorized person would be ABLE to fire the weapon. This would provide both security and accountability, since the weapon couldn’t be taken away and used against its owner, and if it IS used, only the owner or other authorized person COULD have used it.
We certainly have the technology to accomplish this. All we lack is the WILL to do it. How may of us have to DIE before we do something?
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something something “sHaLl nOt bE InFrInGeD” something something
Did I do it right?
What I want to know is, why doesn’t a metal detector work in a subway station?