Democracy Dies In Darkness… Helped Along By Billionaire Cowardice

from the bezos-turning-off-the-light dept

Newspaper presidential endorsements may not actually matter that much, but billionaire media owners blocking editorial teams from publishing their endorsements out of concern over potential retaliation from a future Donald Trump presidency should matter a lot.

If people were legitimately worried about the “weaponization of government” and the idea that companies might silence speech over threats from the White House, what has happened over the past few days should raise alarm bells. But somehow I doubt we’ll be seeing the folks who were screaming bloody murder over the nothingburger that was the Murthy lawsuit saying a word of concern about billionaire media owners stifling the speech of their editorial boards to curry favor with Donald Trump.

In 2017, the Washington Post changed its official slogan to “Democracy Dies in Darkness.”

The phrase was apparently a favorite of Bob Woodward, who was one of the main reporters who broke the Watergate story decades ago. Lots of people criticized the slogan at the time (and have continued to do so since then), but no more so than today, as Jeff Bezos apparently stepped in to block the newspaper from endorsing Kamala Harris for President.

An endorsement of Harris had been drafted by Post editorial page staffers but had yet to be published, according to two people who were briefed on the sequence of events and who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly. The decision to no longer publish presidential endorsements was made by The Post’s owner, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, according to the same two people.

This comes just days after a similar situation with the LA Times, whose billionaire owner, Patrick Soon-Shiong, similarly blocked the editorial board from publishing its planned endorsement of Harris. Soon-Shiong tried to “clarify” by claiming he had asked the team to instead publish something looking at the pros and cons of each candidate. However, as members of the editorial board noted in response, that’s what you’d expect the newsroom to do. The editorial board is literally supposed to express its opinion.

In the wake of that decision, at least three members of the LA Times editorial board have resigned. Mariel Garza quit almost immediately, and Robert Greene and Karin Klein followed a day later. As of this writing, it appears at least one person, editor-at-large Robert Kagan, has resigned from the Washington Post.

Or, as the Missing The Point account on Bluesky noted, perhaps the Washington Post is changing its slogan to “Hello Darkness My Old Friend”:

Marty Baron, who had been the Executive Editor of the Washington Post when it chose “Democracy Dies in Darkness” as a slogan, called Bezos’ decision out as “cowardice” and warned that Trump would see this as a victory of his intimidation techniques, and it would embolden him:

The thing is, for all the talk over the past decade or so about “free speech” and “the weaponization of government,” this sure looks like these two billionaires suppressing speech from their organizations over fear of how Trump will react, should he be elected.

During his last term, Donald Trump famously targeted Amazon in retaliation for coverage he didn’t like from the Washington Post. His anger at WaPo coverage caused him to ask the Postmaster General to double Amazon’s postage rates. Trump also told his Secretary of Defense James Mattis to “screw Amazon” and to kill a $10 billion cloud computing deal the Pentagon had lined up.

For all the (misleading) talk about the Biden administration putting pressure on tech companies, what Trump did there seemed like legitimate First Amendment violations. He punished Amazon for speech he didn’t like. It’s funny how all the “weaponization of the government” people never made a peep about any of that.

As for Soon-Shiong, it’s been said that he angled for a cabinet-level “health care czar” position in the last Trump administration, so perhaps he’s hoping to increase his chances this time around.

In both cases, though, this sure looks like Trump’s past retaliations and direct promises of future retaliation against all who have challenged him are having a very clear censorial impact. In the last few months Trump has been pretty explicit that, should he win, he intends to punish media properties that reported on him in ways he dislikes. These are all reasons why anyone who believes in free speech should be speaking out about the dangers of Donald Trump towards our most cherished First Amendment rights.

Especially those in the media.

Bezos and Soon-Shiong are acting like cowards. Rather than standing up and doing what’s right, they’re pre-caving, before the election has even happened. It’s weak and pathetic, and Trump will see it (accurately) to mean that he can continue to walk all over them, and continue to get the media to pull punches by threatening retaliation.

If democracy dies in darkness, it’s because Bezos and Soon-Shiong helped turn off the light they were carrying.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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“I’m not triggered, you’re triggered!”

“Stop criticizing ratfuckers, they’re my heroes!”

“I’ve made stupid politics my entire personality.”

You say so much with so little.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Obeying in advance is a mark of fear and cowardice. Bezos, Soon-Shiong, and Elon Musk are all cowards. Their obedience to Trump will not save them when Trump decides to destroy them. When someone runs with face-eating leopards, they’ll end up losing their face.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Jeff Bezos is worth over $200 billion.

Endorsing Kamala for President would likely damage the Amazon brand and negatively impact revenues.

He’s too savvy to risk becoming the next Bud Light. Smart move!

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Anonymous Coward says:

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“Why would he be jailed? He’s not a class-traitor.”

Someone got upset with me once, when I said something about the caste system in the US .. lol – there’s no caste system in the US I was told.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Endorsing Kamala for President would likely damage the Amazon brand and negatively impact revenues.

About that damage…. Well you might ask him if considered the fallout from advertisers. Both media outlets receive ad dollars from all manner and stripes of companies that hold the entire range of political ideologies. But the problem here is, by exhibiting cowardice (don’t blame it on greed), he has essentially told all of those advertisers that he won’t stand up for any of them, should the time come for a pogrom.

Patrick Henry once said: “United we stand, divided we fall.” Trump has already successfully divided this country, it remains up to us to attempt to put it back together. Failing to take part in that rebuilding operation says more than enough about which way Bezos would rather have the cookie crumble. Or rather, which way Democracy Dies.

Niemoller’s impromptu apology is still just as true today as it was 1946, and it will always be true. “First they came for the socialists, and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a socialist……”

Anonymous Coward says:

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Bezos, Soon-Shiong, and Elon Musk are all cowards.

Slight correction: Elon Musk is a Trump fanboi rather than bowing to him out of cowardice.

Stephen Sossaman says:

Re: Re: Are the billionaires cowards?

Bezos, Soon-Shiong, and Musk might just be pragmatists, instead of cowards, Stephen T. If they do not care if Trump undermines democracy and the law, and if they expect either an actual or perceived quid-pro-quo benefit from Trump for nixing endorsements, cowardice seems like the wrong failing to charge them with.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Bezos, Soon-Shiong, and Musk might just be pragmatists, instead of cowards

That distinction has no real difference in this context. People worship what they fear. Those three assholes worship (or in this case, support) Donald Trump because they’re afraid of what he could do to their bank accounts in a second term.

Pragmatism can be a smart move in many contexts. In the context of supporting a fascist, pragmatism is not smart. It won’t save people from the bloodlust of a fascist, no matter how much they believe otherwise. I’d prefer to die an opponent of fascism than live long enough to be executed for not being a good enough fascist.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Bezos and Soon-Shiong are acting like cowards. Rather than standing up and doing what’s right, they’re pre-caving, before the election has even happened. It’s weak and pathetic…

I understand you’re despondent at the unthinkable notion of a garbage newspaper not reflexively endorsing the Democrat. But I have to ask: have you considered crying harder?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Jeff Bezos built one of the most useful companies in the world. The staff of the Washington Post built nothing and need to be subsidized. Parasites need hosts; hosts don’t need parasites. If the builders simply assert themselves, it’s game over for the radicals.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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If the builders simply assert themselves, it’s game over for the radicals.

That you think a newspaper like the Washington Post is a home for “radicals” says all anyone needs to know about how you view any media outlet that doesn’t treat Trump like an infallible deity.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Jeff Bezos making amends with Trump is another sign that “Resistance” hysteria has abated. In 2016, the Washington Post re-branded as an anti-Trump crusading organ. In 2024, Bezos and the wider billionaire class no longer see Trump as a threat to their interests, or “the system”.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I’m so infuriated with Jeff Bezos that I’m going to trash his crap Rings of Power show every day for the rest of my life. (Even after it’s gone.)

You embrace woke elves but not woke politics, Jeff? Hypocrite!

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Greed fuels the cowardice of these assholes. If they weren’t so afraid of making even the tiniest bit less money than they already do, they’d be standing up to Trump. But because they fear not being wealthier than most of the world’s population combined, they obey in advance to stay on the good side of a fascist who has already declared the American press to be “the enemy within”.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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It seems to me a parallel to the Republican party members who first spoke– and many quite strongly– against Trump and MAGA, but have now capitulated utterly.

I think in no small part because they’re more afraid of losing what power and relevance they have, than in losing the democratic system that let them get it in the first place.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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asked chatgpt about you and he said “Thad’s arguments are like a broken record—stuck on repeat and completely out of tune.”

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Anonymous Coward says:

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We can’t just let the LA Times and WaPo NOT endorse Kamala. This is literal fascism. Every expert agrees. It is also institutionally racist. Jeff Bezos, a clear shill for Putin, must be thrown into the J6 gulag IMMEDIATELY. It’s time to get serious about saving our Democracy.

Anonymous Coward says:

Billionaire benefits greatly from democracy. Now, when democracy needs him, he chooses to bend the knee to the dictator. We will remember.

Anonymous Coward says:

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Idiot.

Jeff Bezos bought the WPost in 2013.

Since then, the WPost endorsed Hillary in 2016 and Biden in 2020: all while Amazon had key US Security State contracts.

I’m sure Bezos made this decision, but who knows why? I personally never viewed newspaper endorsements as journalistic.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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I personally never viewed newspaper endorsements as journalistic.

Not making an endorsement is also a form of endorsement in this instance.

Plus, you know, the whole thing with Trump’s threats against various media he doesn’t like. Is it journalistic to point that out and endorse the other candidate or are journalists required to figuratively cut their own throat?

Paul B says:

Re: Re: Re: Its more

So the supreme court changed things when they said Trump was immune to all acts taken as president. He can and will use the DOJ to hunt all people he hates (people who did not vote for him).

Trump can actully hurt Bazos, like end all his gov contracts, toss him in jail, and use the power of the DOJ and courts to totally kill Amazon and any thing else Jeff owns.

Others not making an endorcement have already had lawyers tell them how bad Trump is. How crazy he is, and that you need to hedge your bets because of whats going on politically.

And Trust me, Trump feels any communication from a firm is a direct message from its leaders. He does not understand or care that say a newspaper is independent of its owner (since in fox land, its not)

Anonymous Coward says:

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Not making an endorsement is also a form of endorsement in this instance.

With apologies to Rush:

If you choose not to endorse, you still have made a choice.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Yes, they’ve made the choice to be non-partisan, to focus on unbiased content creation, and to refrain from trying to propagandize their readers. Worthy of much respect!!

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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they’ve made the choice to be non-partisan

Trump has already declared the American press to be an enemy of the people. He has already tried to screw over Amazon because of the Washington Post’s reporting on him. If he wins a second term, he will do his best to punish his “enemies”, both personal and political. Bezos and Soon-Shiong decided to try and stay on Trump’s good side in case he wins. But their cowardice will not be rewarded, least of all by Trump.

to focus on unbiased content creation

It is not “unbiased” to hold Donald Trump to a lower standard than Kamala Harris. It is not “unbiased” to ignore Trump’s legitimate cognitive decline since 2015. It is not unbiased to refuse to cover Trump as a serial liar, a philanderer, a man who refuses to pay his bills, an adjudicated rapist, a convicted felon, and a fascist who already held one failed coup and has enough people itching for a second one if he loses this election. All of that is a bias in favor of Trump. That you believe this implicit bias is actually a lack of bias is your problem.

to refrain from trying to propagandize their readers

The truth isn’t “propaganda” unless you believe the truth can hurt you.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:5

Compare any campaign speech from Trump in the first three months of his 2015 campaign to any campaign speech from Trump in the past three months. And no, this is not about his bigotry, his shit-talking of the United States, his refusal/inability to discuss policy details, or his tendency to lie as easily as he breathes. This is about his ability to form coherent sentences and stay on point for longer than thirty seconds. He is now exactly what he claimed Joe Biden is: an old man suffering from dementia who is being propped up by grifters to win a political race he shouldn’t even be running. At least Biden had the good sense to drop out after the debate.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Putting your thumb on the scales to get them to balance isn’t being unbiased. It only looks unbiased to the one getting ripped off by the dirty shopkeeper.

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Anonymous Coward says:

I’m not on Jeff Bezos’s side but seeing these entitled whiny paper pushers screech about an endorsement that doesn’t matter to anyone but their dinner party friends is quite funny.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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It’s not about the endorsement, or lack of, itself. It’s about what this act represents. It’s about completely tossing out one’s professed democratic values to favor-seek/ire-deflect a dictator who’s not even installed yet.

Have you voted yet? Vote if you can vote.
Democracy has to win every time; dictators only have to win once.

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IanW (profile) says:

The day Democracy Dies

Bezos forcing the Washington Post to go Dark Wapo will not prevent Trump from killing it along with the LA Times and the other “fake media” should Trump become President. Will Nov 5, 2024 go down as the day Democracy Dies?

More disturbingly, how many stories and columns critical of Trump will not be reported as the column inches and resources are spent on this story? Distract room tactics at its best!

IanW (profile) says:

Re: Re: Who cares what dies?

He doesn’t care if the Washington Post dies. He cares about losing government contracts if he hurts Trump’s feelings.

Musk and Soon-Strong don’t care if their respective newspapers die. To them that’s probably just a convenient way of getting a tax write-off.

It’s YOU and ME, the PUBLIC that SHOULD care if the Washington Post and other major newspapers die.

Aside from betraying their owner’s original stated commitments to keep the newspapers going, independently, what are the impacts to the community if they disappear?

BestNetTech has repeatedly written about the loss of local news (print, radio and TV) as well as the consolidation of media into giant conglomerates, giving their owners a single, often deleterious voice. Think Sinclair media among others.

Either billionaires buy up all the media stations and provide a single, unified and biased megaphone, or they run them into the ground and shutter them or directly shutter them in the name of synergies, or they run their competition into the ground by undercutting them.

The net result is the loss of independent, investigative reporting, or those voices get buried in cacophony of just another WordPress site or YouTube channel where you have no idea what to trust.

What are the alternatives to billionaire owned media?

Investor owned public media (ie publicly listed stocks) are all ultimately subject to generating wealth for their investors, not the interests of their readers/viewers.

State-supported media gets a terrible rap in the US even though agencies like the CBC (Canada), the BBC (UK), NHK (Japan) and Agence France-Presse all have solidly independent reputations despite state funding. Then there’s RT.

And sadly it seems community owned media ultimately seems to run out of funding when the community loses track of the valuable service these entities provide.

Perhaps, as communities recognize amd embrace the value of community owned fiber networks, those may also rediscover the value of community owned media?

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Why? The only ones who want that are either too stupid to grasp the implications or they want it so the view from nowhere can let the grifters, nonsense peddlers and the fascists free reign to say whatever they want without criticism.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Media Neutrality

Newspapers should try to stay as unbiased as possible and never endorse anyone

Absofuckinglutely not!

Remember Kellyanne Conway’s “alternate facts”? That’s just another way of saying that there are always two sides to any story. And the journalist’s job is to discern which side more likely meets the test of truth, then report on it. Superior officers in the chain of command aren’t supposed to second-guess the reporter, they’re supposed to rely on that person’s having gone out and observed the facts first hand. Otherwise, why hire them in the first place. Might as well use AI, if that’s the case.

In smaller communities where only one media outlet (meaning one newspaper) is available, quality of reporting is a crap shoot. But where there are two or more newspapers to choose from, then it becomes quite evident that readers will choose the paper that most closely reflects their confirmation bias, facts be damned.

But here’s the thing; newspapers are written by people, and you can’t find a person on this planet, in any society, that has no opinion on anything, it just won’t happen. So why expect the publisher, the editor, or any reporter, to express no opinion about something, particularly when it comes to politics. In fact, it’s my observation that nearly every reader of a ‘paper does so to see what other people are thinking and saying. For a great majority of people, they (usually) trust the paper (back to confirmation bias here) to tell it like it is, and affirm that said reader should vote for so-and-so, or perhaps should not vote for them, depending on a bunch of factors.

And that’s why we’re all (nearly all) saying here that ‘the view from nowhere’ is a harmful construct. When a person’s confirmation bias is not confirmed, he or she will not be happy camper, and they’ll take it out on the rest of us, the ones who do know where to go, what to do, and when to do it.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

You can’t separate bias from journalism. Someone must decide what to distill out of the mass of available data, what facts to check, how much context to include (and explain), and how much needs to be left out for time and space. If you want to read a few paragraphs that sum up a 65-page legal ruling, someone must choose what to include and what to leave out.

But even if journalism can’t be unbiased, it can still be good or bad. Good journalism reports the facts even if those facts say one side is irredeemably awful and/or full of shit. Bad journalism pretends both sides are equally valid. False neutrality isn’t journalism⁠—it’s propaganda.

Arianity says:

The thing is, for all the talk over the past decade or so about “free speech” and “the weaponization of government,” this sure looks like these two billionaires suppressing speech from their organizations over fear of how Trump will react, should he be elected.

Is it fear? Or do they just like him, ala Musk? Gotta get those tax cuts, and billionaires tend to think they can avoid the downsides.

In the last few months Trump has been pretty explicit that, should he win, he intends to punish media properties that reported on him in ways he dislikes.

So much for the argument about defending free speech rights even for things we don’t like, precisely so someone like Trump couldn’t abuse it.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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“Is it fear? Or do they just like him, ala Musk? Gotta get those tax cuts, and billionaires tend to think they can avoid the downsides.”
in a real dictator ship it doesn’t matter the leopard will eat your face at any time

BernardoVerda (profile) says:

Re: Re: It's not cowardice, it's "plausible" deniability.

These billionaires don’t see the likelihood of a combination of oligarchy combined with christo-fascism as being a deal-breaker problem — in fact, many of them actively favor both halves of that description.

But a democratically elected government that might reign them in just a little bit? They see that as an actual, significant threat… for them, the only question is how openly they’re prepared to identify themselves as preferring the anti-democratic option.

It’s not cowardice, it’s keeping their position quiet, to avoid being held publicly accountable for what they’re trying to do.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

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Yeah, I wanna see someone talk about how George Soros is offering bribes for voters and buying one of the world’s biggest Internet services so he can turn it into a hyperpartisan playground that is friendly and welcoming to a specific political bent/ideology.

…oh, wait, sorry. I got my wires crossed there; my bad. I was thinking of Elon Musk.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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Half the country is pro-leopard, motherfucker.

The trouble, of course, is that the pro-leopard half doesn’t know that to a leopard, all faces are edible.

And for their stupidity, we the other half get to have our faces eaten along with them.

Lewis Black says it the best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY12SbF3J_4

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:5

So what makes you think I’m a boomer instead of someone much younger? If you followed the camera as it scans Black’s audience, you’d see that he appeals to all ages. Probably because he’s a pretty fair successor to George Carlin.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

'If we praise the leopard surely it won't try to eat our faces AGAIN, right?'

Ah yes, because if history has taught us anything it’s that appeasement of a deranged and mentally unstable dictator is sure to result in positive outcomes for those doing the appeasement.

This is really the pinnacle of not just gutless appeasement but sheer stupidity, because if anyone does not have to fear facing consequences for their actions it’s the absurdly wealthy, and on top of that if they think that Trump will follow through on his unconstitutional threats then what they should be doing is not appeasing that lunatic but throwing their significant money and/or resources into doing everything they can to keep him from being elected.

Anonymous Coward says:

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But he promised them more tax breaks! And that’s absolutely worth having a raging man-child who can’t even string together coherent sentences in charge of the highest political office in the country!

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LittleCupcakes says:

As usual, the far-left-wing extremists of BestNetTech (and other places of course) fly off the handle over a complete nothingburger. This move does of course reek of desperation, and even so it is possibly appropriate under the circumstances, but still it’s absolutely not worth even a pearl-clutching.

I commend those quitter left-wing extremists for sticking to the questionable principle of “employees should set the rules” and at least it’s a rare show of backbone for that set. Usually they just cry and piss and moan until somebody else gets fired so good on them this time.

But there’s no evidence any owner or publisher of these properties is concerned about “retaliation”; that claim is made ex nihilo. Show me the quotes that demonstrate the owners’ or publishers’ concerns about it led to this conclusion.

Wapo and the LA Times are in trouble. Their pandering lurch to the left-wing lunatic fringe has cost them a great deal. They do little investigative work (NYT and WSJ have them beat, handily) and are now nothing more than house organs of the progressive movement, Der Sturmers for elite white progressive hypocrites. WaPo’s slogan is not a warning but their promise to the left-wing would-be-benevolent autocracy.

So i suppose one might bleat and sniffle “greed” or rend their garments over “profit”, but really this is about keeping these vestigial organs, these cable companies to be, open for business.

Do you want more WaPo (like I do) or more LA Times (nobody cares)? Not that blocking endorsements will help much if at all, but maybe it will keep them around longer to soak up more extreme-left-wing Columbus Journalism majors.

Worse, now we’ll never ever ever truly know whom these papers might have endorsed. What a great unsolved mystery that will be!

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Anonymous Coward says:

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As usual, the far-left-wing extremists of BestNetTech (and other places of course) fly off the handle over a complete nothingburger. This move does of course reek of desperation, and even so it is possibly appropriate under the circumstances, but still it’s absolutely not worth even a pearl-clutching.

If the “extremists” of BestNetTech are far-left-wing, that makes you so far right there’s no scale left, every far-right-extremist are looking at you in wonder how you could smash through the end of the scale like that (they don’t realize it’s stupidity).

I commend those quitter left-wing extremists for sticking to the questionable principle of “employees should set the rules” and at least it’s a rare show of backbone for that set. Usually they just cry and piss and moan until somebody else gets fired so good on them this time.

I commend you for being utterly stupid for not knowing that editorial decisions lies with the editor. There’s little more to it than that, but I feel explaining any kind of nuance to you is utterly useless.

But there’s no evidence any owner or publisher of these properties is concerned about “retaliation”; that claim is made ex nihilo. Show me the quotes that demonstrate the owners’ or publishers’ concerns about it led to this conclusion.

I can see why you are asking this considering all the shit that falls out of Trump’s lie-hole, but do you even have an idea how many times he has threatened media and journalists? And if there’s one thing Trump is, it’s being vindictive.

That you think this is a claim made out of thin air speaks volumes how blind and stupid you are. Go do a search for “trump threatens media” and let the stories inundate you because I don’t have the time to educate you in something that its your damn responsibility as a citizen to know.

Wapo and the LA Times are in trouble. Their pandering lurch to the left-wing lunatic fringe has cost them a great deal.

To use your words: that claim is made ex nihilo.

Anyways, that you are using words like “left-wing lunatic fringe” tells everyone that you have chosen stupidity and non-facts over reality and it makes you sound like a crack-pot. It’s interesting how people like you are willingly debasing themselves in this way.

Anonymous Coward says:

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That you think this is a claim made out of thin air speaks volumes how blind and stupid you are. Go do a search for “trump threatens media” and let the stories inundate you because I don’t have the time to educate you in something that its your damn responsibility as a citizen to know.

Infuckingdeed. If one can’t see Trump’s ravings for what they are after 4 years of his public shit-posting, one hasn’t used that 4 years very wisely, have they?

It’s interesting how people like you are willingly debasing themselves in this way.

I’m of the opinion that it’s quite sad, actually. Here we are, spending bazillions on education every year, and wouldn’t you know it, we are still getting adult-sized infants in our population who, for the love of God, are allowed to vote.

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Anonymous Coward says:

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? Wapo and the LA Times are in trouble. Their pandering lurch to the left-wing lunatic fringe has cost them a great deal. They do little investigative work (NYT and WSJ have them beat, handily)

He says the same day WaPo released an investigative report showing that Elon Musk violated immigration laws, and spent years here as an undocumented person.

Anonymous Coward says:

Back Harris, the Orange Mad Man will go after him. Back the Orange Mad Man and then be reviled by the Left if he wins.

Wait to see who wins and then it will either be bald head right up the Orange Arse and hoping that he won’t be targeted and that lucrative contracts will keep coming. Or it will be mend a few bridges then straight back to the business of making obscene amounts of money. Cowardice in part, but it’s all about the money in the end.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re:

If you think all criticism of Donald Trump boils down to the illogicality of “Orange Man Bad”, you’re dumber than a bucket of sand⁠—and about half as useful as one, too.

blakestacey (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:

Moreover, making decisions on the basis that the Orange Man is indeed Bad would lead to making the correct choice in, well, basically every case. (The jury’s still out on the question of having a button that summons a Diet Coke.)

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Both “Orange Man Bad” and “Trump Derangement Syndrome” assume a level of illogicality in anyone who opposes Trump. The people who parrot such bullshit don’t think anyone could look at all that Trump did in his first term…or his three candidacies…or his personal and professional lives prior to 2015…and come to a logical and reasonable conclusion about Trump being a shitty person. To his most ardent supporters (and the trolls who support him “for the lulz”), anyone who hates and criticizes Trump is either “deranged” or so brainwashed that they think in a childlike way. It’s hilarious, in a way: The MAGA crowd sounds more deranged in their boundless support of Trump than any critic ever has or ever will.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:3 A classic example of 'Every accusation a confession'

‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ does exist, it’s just that his cultists that are the ones suffering from it.

anonymous says:

’Tis how it goes

One would think billionaires are invested in having a democracy, so they can continue have their money. And one would be wrong. Billionaires are always the first ones to bend the knees.

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David says:

Funny?

It’s funny how all the “weaponization of the government” people never made a peep about any of that.

It’s “funny” mostly in the sense that a rotting rat corpse in the pantry smells funny.

The kind of funny making you vomit rather than laugh.

David says:

Re:

A “soul” is a spiritual entity, and it provides little satisfaction to consider people you don’t condone as “soulless” since it would mean they would have no business to attend to on Judgment Day.

Billionaires are good enough at weaseling out of courts while they are alive, so don’t wish for them to be able to continue doing so afterwards. Why even bother with religion if things are supposed to continue to suck in the afterlife?

Anonymous Coward says:

“If people were legitimately worried about the “weaponization of government” and the idea that companies might silence speech over threats from the White House”

Then one might try to do what they could to ensure that did not happen, like publish an endorsement and go vote.

Their reaction shows they are not legitimately worried about it and any subsequent wailing about it will be laughed at.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

It’s pretty standard practice that the editorial page reflect the opinion of ownership. Isn’t it possible that WaPo, by not endorsing a prez candidate, is reflecting Jeff Bezos’s move away from the toxic woke progressivism of the Democratic Party?

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Your comment implies that you, in addition to Bezos, are not legitimately worried about the “weaponization of government” and the idea that companies might silence speech over threats from the White House”

Dude says he will kill you if elected … and then you vote for ’em?????
(eyeroll)

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

People don’t get as wealthy as Bezos by caring about anything that’s not related to increasing profit margins.

They are amoral and apolitical creatures who will back (or in this case show submission to) whichever party they think will either actively help, or at least passively not encumber, their profit-seeking.

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Anonymous Coward says:

From Amazon demanding “return-to-the-office” to WashPo refusing to endorse a DEI candidate with a room temperature IQ, Jeff Bezos is a master at getting weak and mentally ill employees to quit.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

“…. refusing to endorse a DEI candidate with a room temperature IQ….”

You do recall, don’t you, that the Republicans said the same things about Obama in 2007 and 8, right? And look how far that got them…..

You trolls all keep using the same playbook,some how hoping that “this time it’ll work!”. Fer Christ’s sake, get some new material.

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Cars says:

Re: Why though.

All y’all Love-To-Hate-ers puzzle me.

Who hurt you, darlin’, that hate-faps are how you get off? You got any irl friends? When was the last time you had a hug?

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Anonymous Coward says:

I'm sad, but not surprised

I’ve had a modest amount of contact throughout my career with business “leaders” — C-level people. Some were educated; some weren’t. Some were smart; some weren’t. Some were competent; some weren’t.

But the one thing they all had in common was cowardice. Every single one of them was an absolutely spineless whimpering coward, afraid to do the right things, afraid of criticism, afraid of losing their position, afraid of the press, afraid of their employees, afraid of failure, AFRAID.

Not one of them had the courage that can be easily found among many ordinary people, people who are just making their way through life and pushing through the struggles it presents. Despite their enormous wealth, privilege, and power, they were always afraid — and it was obvious.

So while it makes me sad that Bezos has clearly bent the knee before Trump, a fucking psychotic murderous Nazi monster, I’m not at all surprised. He was never going to do anything else.

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jimb (profile) says:

Bezos is trying...

Bezos is trying the same experiment Neville Chamberlain tried in 1938: appeasment.

Appeasment of a bully at present, but there is plenty of potential for Trump to become an autocrat if he wins election – he’s as much as promised that. And, just as Chamberlain discovered, ‘appeasment’ doesn’t work.

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re:

Yes, yes, you want us to believe you’re a hyperleftist who shits rainbows and wants to genocide all cis people. We get it. Your schtick isn’t working here, son. Go try 4chan.

Anonymous Coward says:

So very sad. I’ve been reading this Newspaper for 70 years, yesterday I canceled my subscription. I’ve always missed the Times Herald, I wish it could come back

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Anonymous Coward says:

This #WaPoMeltdown reflects the media’s failure to be nonpartisan. Instead of delivering fair, unbiased news, they’ve created teams. Now, the favored babies are upset because the media won’t confirm their choice.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Controversial Opinion:

For all the people screaming #BoycottAmazon because the WaPo won’t endorse Kamala, here’s a thought:

MAYBE ALL MAINSTREAM MEDIA SHOULD BE NONPARTISAN AND IMPARTIAL

F*cking hell, people…

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Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re:

Being “nonpartisan and impartial” is how you get vacuous “view from nowhere” journalism that treats the two major parties as virtually the same except for some minor details, even as one party openly embraces fascist rhetoric and ideas to the point of publicly releasing a planning document about how they will turn the United States into a Christian theocracy if given the chance. Ignoring the flaws of one side and holding the other side to a much higher standard isn’t being “nonpartisan and impartial”⁠—it’s showing an implicit bias towards one side and against the other while trying to claim “impartiality”.

Journalism 101 says that if one person claims the weather is sunny and another one claims the weather is rainy, the job of a reporter isn’t to mention “both sides”, but to look out the window and see who’s right. Journalism 102 says that same reporter should also mention who lied. Treating “both sides” as the same when one is obviously full of shit is how you get “view from nowhere” journalism, which never does anyone any good.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

MAYBE ALL MAINSTREAM MEDIA SHOULD BE NONPARTISAN AND IMPARTIAL

No, we don’t need the view from nowhere because that’s how democracy dies especially when that idea looks good in the face of threats to get on the good side of autocrats and fascists.

Fucking hell, you and the other nitwits complaining haven’t read one shred of history have you? Appeasement never work because media is one of the checks and balances in a democratic society. When they no longer fulfill that role they either become extinct or a propaganda arm for the government or the filthy rich. Want a recent example? There’s no independent media in Russia, China, Afghanistan and North Korea – is that what you want?

The truth is, Bezos is a pussy that’s scared of what Trump will do if he gets a second term. You may like that media will never criticize or give opinions on the rich or powerful, but that only makes you a little shit that has no power whatsoever if that becomes the norm because you will no longer see important truths anywhere.

Americans are fucking stupid, easily led around like stupid cows.

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That One Guy (profile) says:

Re: Last I checked only one party treats 'fact checking' as a existential threat

Oh I’d love it if they were and actually did treat both sides equally, because that’s not what we’ve got right now and a change like that where they reported things impartially and didn’t give preferential treatment would not work out great for the republicans.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re:

Agreed, and if you have friends or family who support the GOP, you should cut ties with them. It’s impossible to be a good person and vote for Republicans as long as Trump’s in charge!

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re:

Always tragic when someone gives an uninformed opinion that screams “I’m too stupid to read!”, this how the US functions these days – the gullible being lead by the stupid.

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

I do wonder where people like you get their news. The endorsement was already written and ready for publication by the editorial staff and then Jeff Bozos stepped in and nixed it.

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David says:

Here is the secret of Trump's success

You don’t get to be a billionaire by betting big one time. You get there by lots of small bets hedging your bets and providing positive payoff.

What does hedging your bets mean in the context of this election?

If Harris wins, you get lawful behavior and agencies running according to their individual expertise. You have nothing to lose by not having supported her.

If Trump wins, you get a spiteful dictator out for revenge and retribution and rewarding everybody who he considers to be in his best interest. You have a lot to lose by having opposed him.

Of course society has a lot to lose as well, but a billionaire’s wealth is defined in contrast to the power and control and life style it provides them with compared to the hoi polloi.

You call Bezos “cowardly” but that implies that he does not dare standing up for what he believes in. But believing in everybody’s best prospect to live a worthwhile life was not what got him where he is. To become a billionaire, you not only need to get a business of the ground that turns out a solid profit but you also need to create a payment structure that diverts a disproportionate amount of the gains to yourself rather than your workforce.

Bezos is not behaving out of character.

It is just that Trump brings out the worst in everybody because he is riding on a message of personal and national selfishness, greed, irresponsibility and sycophancy.

Bezos can work with that. He can also work with saner conditions but hedging his bets for that outcome is less critical.

David says:

Re: Re:

Your point? There is significant positive correlation of being critical of dictators and falling out of windows, so why would being uncritical of Trump be an unhealthy choice as long as you are only thinking of yourself?

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re: why would being uncritical of Trump be an unhealthy choice

Remember how much Donald hates Jeff?
CNN remembers.
Typical dictators are not remembering much about what one has done for them in the past, no – they want you to do much more for them right now or out the window you go.

Donald Trump’s long and dramatic history with Jeff Bezos
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/politics/donald-trump-jeff-bezos-amazon-affair-national-enquirer/index.html

Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:

Never forget that it takes only one “aw shit” to reset all “attaboys”.

Not endorsing Harris is an “attaboy”.

Writing many exposes and other articles critical of Trump is a major “aw shit”.

See sentence number one.

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Anonymous Coward says:

Re: Re: Re:2

Trump is still going win, however. So we need to be thinking about what can be done after he’s inaugurated to thwart his plans to implement Italian fascism. I pray for the lesbians.

Stephen T. Stone (profile) says:

Re: Re: Re:4

Two things.

  1. Trump could absolutely win this election.
  2. Christ, would you stop spamming comments and go touch some grass that is at least ten miles away from your computer and/or phone.

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John85851 (profile) says:

Musk's retweet is a symptom

Musk’s retweet is a symptom of a larger issue: how is it that a rando on the internet can use Photoshop or AI to create a fake story which is then retweeted so many times.
How did randos on the internet get this kind of power?
Why do people like Musk not even bother to see if the story is true or not? Yes, I know people like Musk retweet whatever looks good to them… like your aunt who swears Microsoft is giving away Amazon gift cards because a friend of a friend of a cousin claims he got one.

Maria Fejes says:

Bezos is a coward

I really liked J. Bezos but not anymore.
He shouldn’t own a paper if he is scared of another billionaire. I’m extremely disapppointed. He should change his mind about this matter. It’s not too late…

dickeyrat says:

It’s Only the Beginning. This is just a tip of the iceberg of obsequience we will see all around us, once fat trump reenters the White House, where he will park for the rest of his life. Shaking, quaking fear of the fat orange turd will dictate (no pun intended) much of the media, and in turn many of the normal movings of an alleged society, that most all of us have taken for granted our entire lives. This is fat trump’s Amerika; we only get to live in it (perhaps).

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