NYPD Officers Shot Innocent Bystanders, Fellow Cop Chasing Down A Fare Jumper
from the shouldn't-be-trusted-with-a-badge,-much-less-a-gun dept
I don’t know why the press feels the need to provide cover for law enforcement officers who screw up so badly they injure innocent people and their own coworkers. But they do. It’s not even the “view from nowhere.” It’s the “view mostly likely to exonerate cops by the end of the headline.” And since most people will only read headlines and (perhaps) a couple of paragraphs, the further you bury the lede, the better.
For example, here’s how CBS News first presented this story before being shamed into publishing a more accurate headline:

If you can’t read or see the embed, the original CBS headline was:
NYPD officer wounded in shooting with armed suspect at Brooklyn train station
The implication, of course, is that the officer was wounded by the “armed suspect” who (the headline implies further) participated in the shooting, presumably with bullets of his own.
But that’s definitely not what happened. The original reporting has since been edited, but here’s what it said when the news first broke on September 15.
The New York City Police Department responded after shots were fired at a subway station in Brooklyn on Sunday afternoon.
Police say the shooting was reported around 3:20 p.m. at the Sutter Avenue station in Brownsville.
Four people — three civilians and one police officer — were hospitalized, according to the FDNY. Interim Police Commissioner Tom Donlon said the wounded officer “is in good spirits and is expected to make a full recovery.”
Not a bit of this original reporting was true, which probably means the only source CBS used to compose this report was the NYPD itself.
That article has since been rewritten, with no note appended explaining that the original “reporting” was highly misleading. It also has a more honest headline:
NYPD officer, 2 bystanders shot on Brooklyn subway platform when police fire on armed suspect, authorities say
And the opening paragraphs now more accurately portray what actually happened on September 15.
An NYPD officer and two bystanders were wounded when police opened fire on a man armed with a knife at an L train subway station in Brooklyn, authorities said.
Police said the gunfire was reported just after 3 p.m. Sunday at the Sutter Avenue station in Brownsville.
Four people — one police officer, two civilians and the suspect — were hospitalized, according to the FDNY. Interim Police Commissioner Tom Donlon said the wounded officer, who was shot in the chest area below his left armpit, is at Brookdale Hospital and “is in good spirits and is expected to make a full recovery.”
That’s much better. But it still doesn’t explain — even with the release of the body cam footage five days after the shooting — why these officers felt it was a good idea to open fire into a rail car containing other passengers. The two bystanders shot by these officers suffered serious wounds. One was hit in the head and is still in critical condition. And the other has had her wound minimized by city officials and the NYPD’s talking heads.
A 26-year-old woman who was wounded when New York City police officers shot a knife-wielding man at a Brooklyn subway station was not “grazed” by gunfire as officials have said, according to a lawyer for her family. Instead, the lawyer said on Saturday, she has a bullet lodged in her leg and is unable to walk.
This scene was investigated fully, one assumes. The NYPD had to know exactly how injured Kerry Gahalal was because all of that would need to go into the report. To say otherwise in public statements is lying, the ultimate form of government self-service. This is another PR black eye for the PD, but apparently officials believed they could convince residents it wasn’t by applying a bit of makeup to the self-inflicted wound by pretending one person was, at best, barely wounded and repeatedly reassuring the public that the cop shot by another cop was making a full recovery.
The claim in support of moving to deadly force rests on this, taken from the New York Times’ description of the body cam footage:
The officers fire their Tasers, which fail to subdue Mr. Mickles.
Seems logical the next step would be something more lethal, but if you watch the video, it appears the officers were no better at aiming their Tasers than they were at aiming their guns. This is wasn’t a failure of the Tasers. This was a failure by the officers deploying them — a failure they would repeat moments later but with actual guns and bullets this time.
While it’s true there will occasionally be times where crossfire is inevitable, this doesn’t appear to be one of those situations where deadly force was the only option, especially when other people were in the area and, apparently, just as likely to be shot as the person the officers were pursuing. But that’s just how these things go: cops believe it’s their right to escalate situations in the direction of deadly force and deploy that force the moment they feel comfortable doing so. Every non-cop is acceptable collateral damage… you know, in the interest of public safety.
But when cops do stuff like this, the very least journalists can do is demand more information. And they definitely shouldn’t be absolving officers before the facts are in. This doesn’t help anyone but cops seeking to shore up a narrative before the actual facts come out.
Filed Under: friendly fire, new york, nypd, police misconduct, so anyway i started blasting, subway shooting
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Comments on “NYPD Officers Shot Innocent Bystanders, Fellow Cop Chasing Down A Fare Jumper”
“The suspect will now be charged with assaulting an officer, attempted murder of an officer, attempted murder of (however many bystanders were shot up), reckless endangerment, resisting arrest, and preferring Chicago-style deep dish pizza.”
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That last one is a credible crime
/s
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Thems fighting words.
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So the DA is going for the death penalty, then.
I recall from earlier coverage that the claims the fare-jumper was armed were a lie as well, involving a magical knife that nobody honest saw and somehow walks away when cops look for it.
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And who knows how the fare-jumper claim will hold up. Maybe the charge will end up being a shirt not tucked in orderly so that it may have concealed a weapon.
Our policemen risk their lives daily (actually fewer die on the job than garbage collectors but then garbage collectors don’t get qualified immunity for shooting at any driver that gets too close for comfort). So we cannot have slobs with unorderly shirts make them fear for their lives.
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Do you have a link? I can’t find that information anywhere.
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Three people are badly injured and could have been killed over $2.90.
It’s beyond ridiculous that cops think that people’s lives are worth less than that.
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Cops think that people’s lives are worth less than that.
Cop(yright fan)s believe that people’s lives are worth far less.
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I’m a copyright fan. I believe everyone should be able to claim copyright over their created works, for a period of 20 years from the date of the publication. Corporations, as they cannot create anything, do not get copyright protection. Under contract, individuals can assign enforcement of their copyright to a corporation for the duration of the copyright. After copyright expires, the work enters the public domain.
I’m not a fan of whatever the US has turned copyright into (or software patents).
I could also be convinced to agree with copyright administered the same way that trade marks are done, where you need to actively claim the right to have the protections, and have to apply for protection to be able to have the government serve penalties. But that has downsides in that it prefers corporations over individuals.
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In the released footage, the subject does clearly have a knife when he hopped the turnstile. The footage provided blurs out everything when the shooting begins, so we can’t see when happened.
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That last one is a credible crime
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Hmmm. Replied to the wrong post :/
When people said they wanted fares enforced, I don’t think this is what they meant.
Dredd
Cops are judge, jury, and (attempted) executioners.
It’s sad that even the maiming of one of their own won’t affect change in the organization in even the slightest.
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The nigger was armed with an edged weapon, which he likely would’ve used to kill everyone on that car, had he been able to enter it.
While it’s regrettable that some civilians were wounded, the fault lies with the criminal nigger (Redundant, I know).
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Are you trying to roleplay as an edgy 4channer right now?
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He’s trying to roleplay as one of the worst people for shock-value. The only thing he accomplishes though is outing himself as one of the worst people.
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From Poe’s Law to the Rule of Goats.
It sounds like if the say “and was released from the hospitable”, you have to carefully check if they mean “to the morgue”, or “And is still alive”
With 'defenders of the public' like that...
Boy it’s a good thing that armed officers were on the scene, without them there to protect the public someone might have gotten seriously injured!
Well trained officers...
My suggestion is to revoke the officers’ firearms and tasers until they’ve received a satisfactory result on their shooting-range training for both firearms and taser. As a bonus, they would need to pass a retest on firearms safety, especially the “safety for bystanders” module.
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My suggestion is to charge them with reckless endangerment and bar them from ever being able to own or use a firearm or being employed as an officer of the law. This isn’t something you can retest for. They proved they’re not trustworthy or capable of handling the responsibility of wielding lethal force.
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My suggestion is officers downrange at target practice, and no one qualifies until they stop hitting the aforementioned downrange fellow officers.
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You’d have to have all participants be part of the downrange team.
Best solution would be: pop-up targets at both end of the range, with a pair of officers, one at each end. Instructor first instructs the participants to observe all training, and then tells them to release the safety and get the highest score possible.
The guns are loaded with blanks, and any officer who releases the safety before requesting the officer at the other end leave the range has to re-do the training. Any officer who actively fires their gun has their gun license revoked with no chance for re-licensing.
Fare jumpers harm us all
You all know the saying: you can’t make an omelette without shooting eggs. At one point of time you need to decide whether you are with the good or the bad cooks.
Reminds me of a slogan from the ’80s from my home town:
Police: Stop, or I’ll reload!
It smells like the CBS article has been AI generated because it hallucinated more than cops.
Remember when the media used to hold the powerful to account?
Now they are terrified that if they don’t they won’t get the tips or assistance they want.
The media could stop reporting on police fairy tales until the real story is finally revealed, but they also fear someone else getting a scoop (even if the scoop is parroting police claims that the bullet was fired by a ninja who promptly vanished leaving the poor halpless cop to take the blame) and run with it.
The other reason might be the big reason they won’t hold trump to account… they are terrified the base of supporters might kill them.
Why fire *anything*?
If you are an NYPD officer, then you should be able to easily subdue someone armed only with a knife using your bare hands. This is basic hand-to-hand combat training that ought to be a required: any NYPD trainee who can’t successfully take a knife away from a 6’4″ 230 pound adult man 9 times out of 10 should be failed out of the program.
Of course this takes intelligence, practice, diligence, and dedication – qualities completely missing from the ignorant thugs who staff the NYPD.
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You’d think so, but looking at how businesses and governments and law enforcement agencies are run these days, there seems to be a trend where the most power gets funneled to the people with the least ability or skill. The leadership, in particular.
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Sweet fucking mother of pearl.
Have YOU tried to do so? With your standards in full contact safety gear and training knives or a suitable substitute?
Again, this has nothing to do with the thugs in blue (hell, they SHOULD have that training at least) but asking ANYONE to be able to disarm a knife-wielding maniac at least 9 times out of ten is hard, even for trained professionals.
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No, it’s not an easy skill to learn or practice or master. Neither is landing a passenger airliner in a crosswind or doing CPR on an open-chest patient or a thousand other things that we expect professionals to be able to do because they’re professionals and they get paid to be able to do these things.
The problem isn’t that this skill is too hard; the problem is that our standards are too low. Of course every NYPD officer should be highly proficient in close-quarters unarmed combat: why would even consider anything else?
And BTW this isn’t an exotic martial arts skill like some kind of reverse flying kick: it’s pretty basic. Literally basic, as in “basic training”.
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Agreed. I’ve had the same training for knife disarmament that officers get. And the best technique is to never have to use it, because 9 times out of 10, if you DO attempt to use it, something unexpected will happen and someone will get hurt.
Better solution for fare jumpers is to monitor them and pick them up as they leave their destination station, two officers stepping in from each side as one approaches from the front. No bystanders, minimal risk of knife wielding.
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I feel a great disturbance, as if ten thousand martial artists cried out and were suddenly silenced.
That is not how knives work.
I’d say fare-jumping is dangerous these days but then again, anything that involves a woefully unprepared and often corrupt police force is dangerous. Even if there’s no crime related.
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From this, I’d say that fare jumping is dangerous not just to the jumper, but to anyone in the area.
And jumping is so unnecessary, as you can usually just slide in behind someone else or ask to re-use their fare. Those who do it are just ignorant of how the system works.
The media is so glib about people being “merely” wounded by gunfire. In many cases these are life-changing injuries and many lead to premature death and/or permanent disability, but if the person didn’t die the same day it’s too hard to count so we aren’t going to.
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Kinda like what happened during the first assassination attempt against Trump, which this site didn’t see fit to cover from the perspective of holding the Biden regime accountable.
A man died and two others were wounded, including the former President!
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The shooter was a registered Republican, dumbfuck. Biden had nothing to do with it.
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“which this site didn’t see fit to cover ”
I was unaware this website considered itself to be a news outlet. I looked at the main page for TD and did not find any instance of news outlet claims.
I had thought TD was a tech blog, but I could be wrong – wouldn’t be the first time.
Not sure why anyone would expect TD to cover all the major stories one might find online, perhaps you’re bored with all the tripe you see on x-twit, truth_BS and other magaBS.
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So why the fuck is TD covering cops shooting a criminal Nigger in NYC?
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Was the cop who got shot by his colleague a criminal nigger? That explains a lot, I assume all the cops involved were criminals then.
Brrr, I don’t know what came over me but I just felt the need to descend to your level of intelligence for a brief moment.
Those of us that actually possess a level of intelligence above yours with the accompanying reading comprehension read an article about how a cop shot two innocent bystanders and a colleague in pursuit of a fare jumper.
If it is too difficult for you to understand things like this, ask someone who is smarter than you to explain it in simple terms you understand.
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…a fare jumper armed with an edged weapon who likely would’ve murdered everyone inside that train car.
While it’s unfortunate that both civilians and law enforcement suffered GSWs during the use of force incident, one less criminal nigger roams the streets (at least temporarily).
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You have no evidence to prove this. Watch the video. It seems like the suspect was mostly just a threat to the cops. And it looks like (and is actually proven by the result that) the cops were a bigger danger to themselves and to bystanders.
Classic neutral phrasing from a bootlicker. Cops shot innocent people who are in critical condition. That’s not unfortunate. That’s reckless endangerment. And if one of them dies, it’s manslaughter. That’s homicidal incompetence.
The ends didn’t justify the means here. Your pretzel-twisting attempt at justifying it only shows your obsequiousness to violent authoritarians.
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Whatever, wallow in your stupidity and mental illness thinking that acting like a childish racist on the internet will help. Things like that tend to backfire in the long run.
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Yeah, it’s just like when this site didn’t hold alien probes responsible for infecting people with 5G covid nanotech viruses!
Why are you surprised when other people don’t share your delusions? This isn’t your echo chamber.
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which this site didn’t see fit to cover
Get over yourself, you whiny fucking twat.
You seem to already have known about it. All another article is going to do is make you whine more.
Cope and seethe, snowflake.
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Beyond the weird idea that BestNetTech should be expected to cover presidential assassination attempts, why would anyone write about it “from the perspective of holding the Biden regime accountable” unless they were a drooling conspiracy nut?
Does the knife even matter?
From what a quick online search turned up, New York has a number of restrictions on knives (I presume they either have been upheld in court or have yet to be challenged), but I’ve yet to find anything saying it’s illegal to have a [legal] knife on one’s person while riding the subway. Is it? If it’s legal, was the suspect brandishing the knife or something or did he just have it on his person?
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It’s legal, with caveats.
The NYPD are experts at flipping open knives because that technically makes them switchblades (which are illegal in ny)
Heard so many stories from tradesman in vests with tools getting hassled for their high quality flip open utility knives.
LINK to YT NYPD Site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EaAraFPzEo
ALL perspectives, Subway First, then the 2 officers.
CANT figure how the Cop shot cop?
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So basically the cops should have cleared the cars of bystanders instead of trying to confront an armed suspect in the midst of innocent people. They also shouldn’t have stood there and let him go through the exit in the first place. They should have tased him while he was alone on the platform before the next train showed up.