ShotSpotter CEO Goes On The Defensive With More Meaningless Stats

from the THERE-IS-NO-NEED-TO-EXAMINE-MY-CLAIMS dept

Things are not looking great for SoundThinking, which hasn’t been able to outrun the reputation it earned when it was still known as ShotSpotter.

More and more major cities are choosing to ditch the technology because it simply does not appear to be worth paying for. What lots of cities are finding out is that the tech cannot reliably detect gunshots, does very little to contribute to criminal investigations, and wastes limited resources by sending officers to gunshot alerts that generally result in a bunch of wasted time.

With evidence piling up the tech doesn’t have any meaningful impact on violent crime rates, the company’s PR pitch has shifted focus. It’s new talking point is that it isn’t the number of cases closed, but the number of lives saved due to its gunshot detectors.

The theory is this: a large percentage of gunshots go unreported. 911 callers may call about gunshots they think they’ve heard but plenty of guns are being fired without being heard or without being reported by other residents. According to its new sales pitch, ShotSpotter helps provide faster EMS response, which means fewer people are dying from being shot.

The company claims this is true even though there’s not a single city or law enforcement agency in the nation that actively tracks this data. The latest damning report on the tech — issued by the New York City comptroller — specifically attacked this line of thinking, which was used by the NYPD itself to defend tech it couldn’t actually justify with the minimal data it has (almost inadvertently) collected on ShotSpotter alerts.

Apparently, facts don’t matter when the bottom line is on the line. ShotSpotter’s current CEO, Ralph Clark, recently had a letter to the editor in defense of his company posted by The Mercury News. The reason for Clark’s indirect intervention is this: Oakland is working on a new budget and a lot of opposition has been raised against extending the city’s ShotSpotter contract.

And here’s what the CEO has offered in defense of his company’s tech:

From 2022 to 2023, more than 380 lives were saved because of this technology — gunshot victims found from the alert despite no 911 call.

Some have asked the City to cut the service, which would be dangerous. Less than 20% of gunfire is reported by 911. This is where ShotSpotter steps in. We don’t want to return to the days when our police don’t know when — and exactly where — gunfire is occurring.

He could have put anything in there. Any number at all. Any time period at all. It wouldn’t have mattered. Ralph Clark is just tossing out numbers like they mean something, even when they’re completely devoid of context.

While I realize most sites won’t publish excessively long letters to the editor and that the company’s CEO is certainly aware a wall of text rarely changes anyone’s mind, there’s absolutely zero information here that clarifies what’s being claimed in the that first sentence.

Is this just in Oakland? Is this across the nation? If it’s just Oakland, where is ShotSpotter getting this data? I can guarantee Oakland law enforcement isn’t tracking this metric.

Are EMS units arriving on the scene faster? Or does this just mean that, at some point, an EMS unit arrived where a shot was reported by ShotSpotter? Is ShotSpotter tracking outcomes of ER visits to ensure lives were saved? Is the Oakland PD doing this? Where is this number coming from and, just as importantly, how significant is it in terms of total number of shots detected by ShotSpotter mics?

What we do know for certain is that cops using this tech aren’t tracking this sort of information. In fact, in most cases, they aren’t doing any tracking at all so they don’t really know whether or not the tech is actually having any impact on anything. It’s usually city oversight entities doing this dirty work. And when they do it, they always find the tech is consuming lots of time and resources without providing any verifiable return on investment, especially not in terms of crime reduction.

If this is the best ShotSpotter has to offer, it doesn’t deserve reconsideration. If Ralph Clark would like to publish the underlying stats (along with their source) for this claim, I’ll be more than happy to publish them here as well. But, until the company actually has something substantial and verifiable to say about its service, the most it should try to credibly claim is that it’s capable of detecting gunshots. And if that’s all it is, it certainly isn’t worth spending money on until it can demonstrate utility beyond that.

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Sean Michael says:

Shotspotter

In looking at their website, it looks like they tried make the Marine Corps’ and Army’s UTAMS wireless and use it for gunshot detection. Problem is the sensitivity of the sensors needs to be higher to account for the smaller sound of a gunshot compared to a rocket explosion. So you make it more sensitive, but then you have a problem with noise (e.g., dump trucks dropping large containers every week). Use an Extended Kalman Filter to reduce some of the “noise” or false positives, but you still need a human (target acquisition processor) to filter out the noise even further to determine what is a real shot and what is just other kinds of noise. Shotspotter is good initiative, bad judgement. It needs to be significantly refined to make it useful…and you’re right…statstics will not improve its capabilities.

That One Guy (profile) says:

Probably not the best argument to make...

Alright, let’s run with that.

EMS services as limited in nature in that there’s only so many ambulances and the people to staff them in a given area, such that if they’re out on a call they’re not available to head to another, or at least not do so in short order.

Given an ideal situation a shot accurately reported will allow EMS to arrive on the scene sooner, providing medical attention that saves a life that would otherwise have been lost.

Now, given one of the complaints that police departments and cities have given regarding ShotSpotter is that it flags non-gunshots as gunshots, sending cops to ‘shootings’ that don’t exist that means that EMS are almost certainly also being sent do fictitious shootings, and that means that until they confirm that and head back to the hospital there’s one less ambulance available for other, real emergencies.

They want to claim that their tech has saved lives by getting EMS to shootings they otherwise would have missed? Have at it and show your work, but while they’re doing that they need to crunch the numbers for how many lives have been lost due to bogus alerts tying up medical resources that otherwise could have provided help.

Anonymous Coward says:

Apparently, facts don’t matter when the bottom line is on the line.

Ever since Small Hands got elected Prez, the MAGAnuts have proven that facts don’t matter, period.

He’s just like all the other performative wingnuts you see at state houses all across the country. And don’t even get me started on Congress! So, maybe that’s gonna be his next gig?!?

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