Apparently Elon Doesn’t Think He Needs To Pay Rent Because SF Is A ‘Shithole’; So Why Should We Pay For Twitter?
from the burning-down-the-house dept
It’s no secret that Twitter isn’t paying many of its bills, including the rent for its headquarters. That was rumored last fall, but became much more clear when the landlords sued the company in January.
Now a new lawsuit, filed last week by six former employees, provides a lot more details on Elon’s view of, you know, paying for things he is contractually obligated to pay for. The employees, many of whom were high level, note that Musk and his circle of advisors (known by existing Twitter employees as “the goons”) made it clear to Twitter employees that they were to break all sorts of contracts:
Led by Musk and the cadres of sycophants who were internally referred to as the “transition team,” Twitter’s new leadership deliberately, specifically, and repeatedly announced their intentions to breach contracts, violate laws, and otherwise ignore their legal obligations.
The employees filing the lawsuit note that they were constantly ordered to violate their own legal obligations, often in the most obnoxious ways.
“Elon doesn’t pay rent,” one member of the transition team told Hawkins. Another member of the transition team put it more bluntly to Killian: “Elon told me he would only pay rent over his dead body.”
The crux of the lawsuit itself is that Musk hasn’t paid them the required severance he owes them per their contracts. But they used the opportunity to reveal a lot of what happened within Twitter. Enough that apparently the city of San Francisco has opened an investigation based on the claims in the complaint.
And while the complaint details various city building codes that Musk ordered employees to violate, the decision not to pay the rent is especially interesting. One of the plaintiffs, Tracy Hawkins, was Twitter’s VP of Real Estate and Workplace, and (as the complaint notes) if she had followed Elon’s orders, it would have destroyed her reputation in the real estate world.
The complaint paints quite a story:
On or about October 30, 2022, Hawkins attended a meeting with Steve Davis, Jared Burchall, and many of Twitter’s global leaders.
In that meeting, Davis announced several changes that boded ill for Hawkins’ team and her role at Twitter.
First, he announced that Twitter’s Sourcing and Procurement team should handle all lease negotiations from that point forward, despite lacking both personnel and experience sufficient to handle this task.
Next, he announced that the company would no longer be working with brokers to procure and negotiate leases.
This choice ran in conflict with every established standard and practice of commercial real estate management, and stood to further increase the burden on the in-house staff substantially.
The meeting gave no opportunities for feedback or discussion – it was merely a series of nonsensical pronouncements.
The only justification given for the changes was “Elon wants this.”
Very soon thereafter, Davis informed Hawkins that Twitter needed to find five hundred million dollars in annual savings.
To accomplish this, each Global Lead was given a massive spreadsheet that had to be filled out every single day, identifying possible savings opportunities.
Hawkins’ spreadsheet covered thirty locations and upwards of fifty leases.
The pressure to fill in the spreadsheet on time was immense. Expectations from above made it clear that compliance was prioritized above accuracy
Nonetheless, Hawkins and her team strove to deliver reliable, well-contextualized information.
For example, Twitter instructed Hawkins to identify leases for cancellation.
When she identified potential sites and leases that could be terminated for cost savings, Hawkins and her team took the time to document the risk factors involved in downsizing or terminating these leases, such as large termination fees.
However, when the time came to present their conclusions, this added context was not well received.
When informed of the risks of termination fees during a meeting on November 3, 2022, Steve Davis said “well, we just won’t pay those. We just won’t pay landlords.”
Davis also told Hawkins “We just won’t pay rent.”
Those are direct quotes of Davis per Hawkins’s best recollection; to the extent that they are not word-for-word accurate they are an extremely tight paraphrase.
Hawkins was shocked.
Twitter specifically directed Hawkins to breach its leases, whether by terminating without any good faith justification under the terms of the applicable lease, or by simply stealing from the landlords by intentionally remaining on the premises without any intention of paying amounts Twitter knew and believed were its legal obligation to pay.
Unwilling to be involved in (let alone responsible for) such thefts, Hawkins resigned the next day.
Later in the complaint it notes:
In effect, if she had done what Twitter was asking her to do, Hawkins would have become permanently unemployable in her field.
Perhaps even crazier is the story of Joseph Killian, Twitter’s Global Head of Construction and Design, who was given the role of taking over Hawkins’ responsibilities after she had quit. You have to read the following because it is absolutely incredible:
After Hawkins left Twitter, Killian, who was Twitter’s Global Head of Construction and Design, was immediately assigned Hawkins’s duties and given responsibility for managing Twitter’s portfolio of nearly fifty leases.
Killian worked directly with the Transition Team to effect the transition from Twitter 1.0 (pre-Musk) to Twitter 2.0 (post-Musk) and bring Twitter in line with Musk’s standard business practices.
Killian was directed in these activities by Steve Davis and Liz Jenkins, who worked for the Boring Company, and Pablo Mendoza, a venture capitalist who invested with Musk.
Killian was also directed in these activities by Nicole Hollander.
On information and belief, Hollander was not employed by any of Musk’s companies.
On information and belief, Hollander is Steve Davis’s girlfriend and the mother of his child.
On information and belief, Hollander was living at Twitter headquarters with Davis and their infant child, who was a month old.
Despite not being employed by any of Musk’s companies, Hollander nonetheless had full instructional authority over Killian and the rest of his team with regards to the transition.
Almost immediately, Musk’s “zero-cost basis” policy reared its head
Killian was informed by the Transition Team that he would have to justify his spend to Musk personally, and that if Musk was not convinced that the expenses were necessary, he would simply default on his contractual obligations and let the expenses go unpaid.
In early December, Davis sent a 3:00 a.m. email to 15 or 20 managers complaining about Twitter’s rent obligations, which totaled $130M annually.
In this email, Davis specifically compared Twitter’s rent obligations to SpaceX’s, noting that Twitter had 1/10th as many employees as SpaceX but paid five times as much rent annually.
Of course, Twitter had significantly more employees when it first incurred its rent obligations.
Killian quickly became concerned that Musk intended to stop paying rent on Twitter’s outstanding leases, breaching the contracts and placing the company at risk of being evicted.
Indeed, Musk’s attorney, Alex Spiro, loudly opined that it was unreasonable for Twitter’s landlords to expect Twitter to pay rent, since San Francisco was a “shithole.”
So, Alex Spiro is a big time lawyer. One of the biggest. But, I’m pretty sure that not paying your contractually obligated rent because the city is a “shithole” is not how anything fucking works.
Either way, I guess this means that Spiro and Musk approve of squatting in “shithole” cities? Power to the people! But also, I think this also means that Spiro doesn’t think anyone should pay Twitter anything because it, too, has become quite the shithole.
Either way, the complaint then details how Davis ordered Killian to stop paying rent. And, also to… install bathrooms all over Twitter HQ, telling him not to get permits (in violation of their lease) and to hire unlicensed plumbers to do the work. And when Killian emailed his concerns over this, Davis’ apparent girlfriend (who again, was not employed there, but living in Twitter HQ) told Killian to never put such concerns in writing:
Musk announced via the Transition Team that he was going to be installing “hotel rooms” at Twitter HQ.
Killian was initially told that the “hotel rooms,” soon renamed to “sleeping rooms” to avoid triggering the suspicions of the city inspectors, were just being installed to give exhausted and overworked employees a place to nap.
Though the changes had initially been simple, if unorthodox – removing a conference table and installing a bed – Davis instructed Killian to begin planning for and implementing the addition of features like en-suite bathrooms and other changes to the physical plant.
Concerned about how city inspectors would react to Twitter’s plans, Killian emailed the Transition Team to note that the changes they had made thus far were limited to ‘just furniture’ and therefore were code compliant, but that Twitter’s future planned changes would require permits and more complicated code compliance.
In response, Hollander visited him in person and emphatically instructed him to never put anything about the project in writing again.
Hollander appeared surprised and distressed that Killian did not inherently understand that this was not a project for which Musk and the Transition Team wanted a written record.
Hollander specifically conveyed that Davis in particular was upset that Killian had sent the email.
On Friday, Elon mocked the reports that came out of the lawsuit regarding the “wrong locks” on doors:

But… the details in the lawsuit are not just about “wrong locks on doors” but about the real risk that people would fucking die. Which puts Elon’s comment in a different light:
Killian was instructed to install space heaters in the “hotel rooms” in further violation of Twitter’s lease
Killian was also instructed to place locks on the “hotel room” doors – a request that betrayed the lie that these were intended to be temporary rest spaces for exhausted Tweeps.
California code requires locks that automatically disengage when the building’s fire suppression systems are triggered.
Killian was repeatedly told that compliant locks were too expensive and instructed to immediately install cheaper locks that were not compliant with life safety and egress codes.
Again, Killian protested that no licensed tradesperson would perform work that violated the building code.
Killian protested that installing these locks would put lives at risk – that in case of an earthquake or fire (the latter of which was made dramatically more likely by the noncompliant electrical work and the presence of the space heaters he had been instructed to install), these locks would remain locked, blocking first responders from being able to access the rooms and the Tweeps within.
Nobody cared.
On information and belief, the non-compliant locks were in fact eventually installed – but not by Killian.
Killian quit that day.
Yikes.
I mean, it’s pretty clear that Elon does not care one bit for the lives and wellbeing of those who work for him. But, this really takes it to another level.
And all this because Elon got suckered into massively overpaying for the company because he didn’t understand literally anything about social media, and then saddled the company with a huge, unnecessary debt, and his way to deal with that was to put people at risk?
Filed Under: elon musk, joseph killian, tracy hawkins, wolfram arnold
Companies: twitter, x corp.




Comments on “Apparently Elon Doesn’t Think He Needs To Pay Rent Because SF Is A ‘Shithole’; So Why Should We Pay For Twitter?”
One must wonder how Tesla runs behind the curtains if this is how he handles Twitter.
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From what ex-employees (anonymous since it turns out Musk is a petty vindictive person) have been writing there is a whole shell of people around Musk to prevent him from actively interfering in the daily running of Tesla and/or massaging news/information in such a way that it looks like Musks whims are being enacted.
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” there is a whole shell of people around Musk to prevent him from actively interfering in the daily running of Tesla ”
Sounds similar to stories of Donald staff trying to prevent him from doing .. all that crap he did.
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Indeed, his main use at Tesla and SpaceX seems to have been as a hype man generating interest in products and in making some good decisions as to who to hire to do the work at the top, while his many flaws were tolerated or hidden as people didn’t mind so much while the company mission was actually world-changing.
Whereas at Twitter, he’s fired anyone who dares disagree with him and now owns the mouthpiece to directly communicate his thoughts with the world. Which doesn’t work so well.
Re: At least one worker has already died because of Musk's disregard for safety
HE DIED HELPING BUILD TESLA’S GIGAFACTORY. TESLA DIDN’T TELL LOCAL OFFICIALS.
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I would imagine significantly worse. And the way Musk drives his teams to produce cars in the last moth of a quarter – and the resulting significant drop in quality, one must assume that safety also goes out the window to meet his ever increasing production demands.
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That’s not how Tesla builds cars anymore
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There’s no shortage of horror stories if you look for them online, but I recall reading one user story for SpaceX on Ars Technica describing what happened when it was Elon’s birthday. He had everyone come down to a conference hall where a rocket-shaped cake was wheeled in with his name on it, conveniently shaped like a phallus. He subsequently had everyone clap loudly when the cake was cut into, and to no one’s surprise it looked like it was ejaculating. You could feel the grimace from the forum post through your computer screen.
Usually, when one says SF is a shithole, one might think that’s it’s either because it’s too crowded, or too dirty, or that’s it’s full of San Franciscoans…
But never have I heard “because I have to pay rent” and “because the city has regulations I have to follow” as a “reason” to hate the city.
Truly shocking.
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Now you have a new reason to hate SF: because Musk runs a company headquartered there.
Re: Re: 'No rent? No building. Now get out.'
Well, perhaps not for too long at this rate…
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Well, that’s hardly the fault of the government or citizens of San Francisco, and given his words and actions might not be there problem for much longer anyway.
Re: Too many teats: the Capitoline Wolf
The business of Municipalities & their local law is “Real Estate” and the protection of “value”.
With the State now siphoning off most of California’s retail sales tax (since the Enron debacle) our cities have one resource left, taxing rent. See New York https://nyc-business.nyc.gov/nycbusiness/description/commercial-rent-tax & https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/jdbk/files/sole.pdf
Stupid Musk sees landlords (specifically REITs) as a one more opportunist sucking from him: a “Maker” in modern parlance.
He fails to recognize pass-through contracts signed before his time, the cad. Case law abounds, in 1996 https://casetext.com/case/in-re-sizzler-restaurants-international-inc-1 Good-To-Go:)
Than again https://www.nrn.com/casual-dining/sizzler-usa-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy
https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-object-page.43727.html
Of course, this dynamic, the “Capitoline Wolf” represents the founding of Rome, and is cemented in our minds at a young age, See https://harpers.org/2012/10/monopoly-is-theft/
Re: San Francisco's shithole quotent
My only complaint, living there for 25 years was coming home covered in ash, the lack of parking anywhere and the gentrification that eventually pushed me out of my flat.
The air is usually clean since all the pollution gets pushed out to sea. And things are close to each other, and the non-chain coffee shops are quite delightful. Also you can get some pretty amazing Mexican food all along the Mission.
As of about ten years ago, the people were nice enough, if in a hurry most of the time. Granted, the tech hippies were a bit snobbish about us OG artsy hippies, but I figured that’d sort out over time. Their objections were tame compared to Karen moments on social media.
As one who likes metropolitan living, I’d live there again if I wasn’t priced out of the Bay Area.
Let’s be real about one thing here… Nobody suckered Elon into this purchase but himself.
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Re: Why Capitalizm failed us
Actually, his twice X-wife and the mother of most of his children ask him to buy Twitter® with a telephone call.
This won’t be a problem when AI takes over critical decisions for our economy and capital allocation is rational, devoid of dangerous emotions and silliness.
Stealing NG markets from Putin is an example, with spilled blood an externality.
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Put down the crack pipe.
Headfirst into conspiracy charges
“In response, Hollander visited him in person and emphatically instructed him to never put anything about the project in writing again.”
Something something transparency.
Id someone in authority doesn’t want a record made, there’s usually a nogood reason – often criminal.
Written record
This sounds like prime examples of a rule I’ve had for decades: if your bosses don’t want a written record of something, you absolutely need a written record of it.
Re: And
…and an audio recording or detailed notes of all conversations.
Re: Plausible Deniability
Hollander’s ethos;
“Don’t say yes. Don’t say no. Don’t deny anything. Don’t deny there’s anything to deny. Tell them you’ll phone back, but don’t.”
The mark of a visionary is pushing the envelope
And we probably can all agree that Musk is pushing it like a diarrheatic cow.
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A visionary always has a vision. That doesn’t mean their visions are always good.
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The ‘shrooms don’t lie, man.
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It’s the person taking the ‘shrooms you have to worry about.
And to think: Some people still believe with full-throated sincerity that Elon Musk is going to save humanity.
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Well, to quote G.B.Shaw:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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So does (as G.B. Shaw would have agreed) a very great deal of very predictable failure.
Re: Re: Unreasonable men making changes
This is my experience with the freeware utility market: We do without until not having a wizard becomes more infuriating than writing a wizard. And then suddenly an engineer whose focus is not programming releases a wizard that fixes the problem.
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Well, my experience with free software is sort of the opposite: at some point of time I become so fed up with explaining the world to the unreasonable men that I change it for them to better match their naïve but unreasonable and logically incoherent expectations.
And then the bleating stops and you get to enjoy the silence of the lambs. And if you think that if some harebrained heuristics covering the most frequent abuse while emitting the most bloodcurdling and pinpointed warnings will cause anyone to report a thing or fix their input, think again.
It is a real wonder that Vulcans did not decide to purge the human race from the universe right away.
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Some people still believe with full-throated sincerity that Musk is going to carry a successful manned mission to Mars.
Of course, they don’t talk much about bringing anyone home.
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BREAKING: Mike doesn’t like Twitter.
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More accurately, it would appear Mr. Masnick doesn’t like assholes.
Having worked for quite a few, I tend to understand his mild aversion to them.
Imagine what this man’s Mars station would be like.
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BREAKING: Mike likes Twitter quite a lot and is incredibly disappointed to see Elon destroying it for no reason at all.
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Hmmm Mike is is seems to be on the wrong message?
Is this another insance of the comment section being weird?
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Huh. It’s possible I clicked the wrong spot. Oh well.
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Always a bad sign when the head honcho can’t use his own site.
I’d give this a solid 1.5 on the (0-10) Musk-o-meter.
Re: Re: Mike liking twitter.
Huh. My impression was that no-one liked Twitter, but it was good enough to do the thing it did that everyone used it.
And then Musk came along and fouled it up so people started actively hating Twitter.
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It was cheaper than buying a SMS feed for alerts (80K a year at the time) for the expected use case. However, that need has now been addressed and the Twitter functionality has been removed from things I am maintaining since Twitter wants to charge too much for API access. (Not that many sites use it really. No more than a few thousands.)
Re: Re: Re: Useful for artists
Nah, Twitter was actually really good for following artists and indie musicians, or other interesting people. It’s a great way to get notified of new works, announcements for streams, or just general fun stuff they post.
But the algorithm was always hostile to those kinds of posts, because they don’t provide the instant gratification that a celebrity fight or racist rant does. Further, posts mentioning Patreon got downranked, making it harder for artists to support themselves.
Musk just made it far, far worse by down-ranking anyone who didn’t buy Twitter Blue.
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Re: Re: SF Shithole
Why don’t you mention that san fransisco commercial real estate vacancy rates have been increasing, its not only Elon noticing that san fransisco has become a shit hole.
I think it would have also been worthy to mention that Twitter was running out of money according to Elon, so perhaps trying to reneg on its leases, is the best of bad options for twitter.
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Because it has no bearing on whether or not Elon should pay his bills. That’s an obligation, not a “Oh, i don’t like this place so I should get to work/live here for free.”
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“san fransisco commercial real estate vacancy rates have been increasing”
I don’t think that people realising that they don’t have to line in / maintain a physical office in one of the most expensive cities in the country, after a global pandemic forced them to explore alternative options, means that San Francisco is a “shithole”.
“Twitter was running out of money according to Elon”
The problem there is the words “according to Elon”. They had some good and bad years but were returning profits outside of a bad 2020, but many accounts (easy graph here, there’s other sources: https://www.netcials.com/financial-net-profit-year-quarter-usa/1418091-TWITTER-INC/).
The problem is, the $1.5 billion/year extra debt he saddled them with as a result of his purchase wipes all that out, even before you account for all the advertisers and users he’s chased away.
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“don’t have to line in”
Live in…
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When Libertarians leave San Francisco for the lower tax rates in Texas, they’re raising the average IQ of both locations.
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Well Du’h of course Twitter is running out of money when ad sales are down around a billion (thanks to Musk), mass layoffs and refusal to pay the bills only adds a billion (before the lawsuits over this are lost by Twitter, thanks to Musk) and the debt service plus principal repayment adds another $.15 billion this year (thanks to Musk). The only reason that no one has filed for bankruptcy yet is the billion or two that pre-Musk Twitter had stashed away still not being used up to do that whole debt service thingie.
Do keep in mind that Dorsey managed Twitter well enough that the analysts expected a modest profit of around $200 million in 2022, but that was before Musk proclaimed he was going to own Twitter whatever the cost. And due to that immediately lost 80% of the revenue they expected to earn at the biggest ad schmooze fest of the year and kept getting less ad income since companies did not want to risk Musk going Musk on Twitter.
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Staffed entirely by Elon, who is struggling to even understand WHY he’s there, while all the life support systems keep dying and he’s wondering how to fix them?
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Will anything of value be lost?
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Only if you’re Wall Street.
To others, something of value would be gained: the removal of the world’s richest white supremacist.
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Uh, we are talking about Elon Musk. His job is not fixing the life support systems but finding someone to blame for them and threaten to throw them out if they aren’t fixed extremely hardcore.
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“Move fast and break things.”
“Ooops — we depend on that hydroponics unit for all our oxygen.”
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Fuck the hydroponics unit, remove that section of hull!
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This describes both tech disruptors and PCP addicts.
an old tradition
There was an old tradition in England of aristocrats not paying tradesmen. It’s now a major piece of conservative policy. Look at the current debt ceiling standoff in Washington. Arrange for goods and services, then refuse to pay for them. So much for the sanctity of contracts. It’s part and parcel of the Republican mindset. Being a Republican should knock 100 points off one’s credit score.
Re: Pray
“I Am Altering the Deal, Pray I Don’t Alter It Any Further.”
Not to put too fine a point on it, but non-compliant locks are not a small deal. Like many safety rules, those codes were written in blood (or ash, in this case).
San Francisco should take over the Twitter offices and turn them into a gender affirming care clinic for those fleeing theocratic states
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Twitter could always move to the Millennium Tower. Prime real estate, discounted prices. What could go wrong?
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collecting rent.
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You mean like Florida?
In the future, everything will be controlled by one massive machine, tended to by a man and a dog. The man’s job will be to feed the dog, and the dog’s job will be to keep the man from touching the machine.
Well, we’re waiting…
This whole business seems just like what is going on with the ex-president. It’s been clear since day 1 that Musk Twitter had no intent of paying vendors, paying severance, paying rent, following the FTC consent decree, adhering to the EU Digital Markets act, or any other number of legal obligations. Yet, there seem to be very few consequences of these actions. Will there be?
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There are no consequences for the rich. Not anymore.
Space X?
How long is NASA, a company closely bound to the US security forces, going to put up with having the CEO of a major supplier becoming the story, where unbelievably inappropriate, probably illegal and outright dangerous activities, sanctioned by him, take place seemingly on a daily basis?
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When Donald Trump is charged with insurrection.
It may never happen.
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Would it be conspiracy ideation to suspect that Elon Musk, himself, might ultimately be the real reason that NASA is still pursuing other, hideously more expensive programs, and awarding hugely expensive contracts to Blue Origin and other launch service providers that aren’t named ‘SpaceX’.
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Would it be conspiracy ideation to suspect… … aren’t named ‘SpaceX’ ?
Proof-reading your own post sucks — you always see the obvious mistakes immediately after it’s too late to correct them 🙁
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Those other programs are lobbyists at work. Space-X is seriously cutting down on the amount of money (and jobs) AKA pork that congress and senate can bring home. There is a reason the SLS has been re-acronymed to Senate Launch System.
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Or the Shelby Launch System, for the most egregious example.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/05/nasa-inspector-questions-why-agency-built-rocket-test-stands-in-alabama/
Re: No other rockets
No other rockets: With the judicious use of the Market Economy® and exploiting actual 21’st Century technology by giving away all his SpaceX Patents, Musk-the-Mongol-horde killed off all other sources.
“….major supplier becoming the story, where unbelievably inappropriate, probably illegal and outright dangerous activities, sanctioned by [CEO] take place seemingly on a daily basis?” accurately describing Boeing, L3Harris, General Dynamics, Lockheed, Northrop et. al. for many past decades. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_My_Sons
Do you genuinely believe that Elon would act differently if he paid half as much for the platform?
I do not.
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If he hadn’t overpaid they never would have sold it to him.
When poor people don’t pay rent because they can’t afford to, they’re lazy deadbeats.
When rich people odn’t pay rent because they don’t wanna, they attract an army of Comment Guys constantly proclaiming them to be business geniuses.
Or, as I guess they prefer to be called, a “transition team”.
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Lords, landlords, and peasants
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Strangely enough the usual bootlickers seem to be absent this time around, I guess even they are having a difficult time coming up with a spin for ‘refusing to pay rent but also refusing to stop using the buildings while risking the lives of employees’.
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Too busy wanking themselves dry about Soros?
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Oh I imagine that’s got a lot of their attention but to not utter so much as a peep in defense of Elon here is very telling.
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You say that like this excuse has ever stopped them before. It’s not as if this is the first time Musk has pulled this sort of “I don’t have to pay rent if I don’t want to” move, and when he did, we had Matthew Bennett and Chozen loudly and proudly declaring that the contracts were “stupid” and everybody else who wasn’t a Musk stan was just too ignorant to admit it.
Mind you, there has been a very conspicuous lack of Chozen lately. I personally imagine that he attended a Trump rally and screamed “Suck my fat cock you piece of shit!” at an actual alpha male, at which point survival of the fittest took care of the rest.
Re: Re: usual bootlicker here
SpaceX has about 2,500 employees in Texas. SpaceX has spent about $3 billion so far at Waco & Starbase on the Mexican border, with one death from falling out of a PU truck. Another death was a beach-goer that ran into a parked 18-wheeler late at night:(
“30 deaths during construction would have been close to the 1930s average of 1 death for every million dollars spent”
or 150 deaths today at 20:1 dollars. See https://www.industriallogic.com/blog/golden-gate-safety/
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But what transition are they managing, the one from viable business to bankruptcy?
a**holes there is, apparently. Or how else could you read this:
‘Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.’
https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/10/23451198/twitter-ftc-elon-musk-lawyer-changes-fine-warning
How is that working out for him?
I hate my F’ing job. And yet, when I read this, well, gosh darn it, this shit head makes me think I’m in paradise and just don’t know it.
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Maybe that’s his job: Making you average life-sucking, soul-destroying job seem like the biggest stoke of luck ever by comparison.
'If you don't like it here then you don't get to stay here'
What I’m reading is that all of those property owners can and should do Elon the favor of kicking him off their property since by his own words and actions he doesn’t think they have any value and it would be a real travesty for him to have to continue to keep using them.
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Most (all?) states don’t allow landlords to just lock tenants out. However, if the landlord can get the city to condemn the offices for something stupid Elmo has done, that’s a different story.
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Though I’m unfamiliar with the laws in question I can’t help but suspect that refusing to pay your rent and making unauthorized changes to the building would provide plenty of legal justification to give him the boot.
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Yes, but you still have to get a judge to agree, and that takes a long time.
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Things can, however, get fun once the judges realize the tenants are being asses. Eventually a sheriff may take the landlord into any Twitter office, and then they can pretty much just take Twitter’s stuff to collect their debt. Stuff like employee laptops.
I always thought Musk would get into legal trouble because of all of the lies and shortcuts he took with FSD or SpaceX.
But it will be hilarious if he gets into criminal trouble because of Twitter.
When I find myself driving behind a Tesla, I intentionally allow additional space for the potential Elon brake check.
Let us be clear, Elon hates people
He hates humanity. He does allow for some individuals to exist. As long as they produce children for him. So his (suspect) DNA will be seeding future mankind.
Not humanity. He truly believes Earth is toast, and wants to leave it behind, start a new civilization on Mars then laugh as we die. Such a guy.
I opine that his DNA is suspect, watch his SNL monologue, it explains my position. It also explains his tendencies. Read the descriptions, difficult to change his mind, believes he is the smartest person in the room. In his case; Every room everywhere.
Hating to rethink a position, while he claims to do that at SpaceX he is not actually in charge and is not capable of being in charge. He’s an Econ major. That’s it. He’s a spreadsheet jockey with a line of bull and a list of willing suckers. All his other claims come without documentation. His buyer’s remorse re Twitter was because of a phone call with one of his supporters; re Twitter revenues tanking the closer it got to Elon rule.
He cares about one human. Himself. That’s it. Everyone else is a tool, a resource, a sucker, or who knows what else he uses to write off people. But, the man has a list, and he adds to it everyday.
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Even his claim to be an Econs major shpuld be checked, considering how he runs Twitter.
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Well you know the joke.
Guy comes in for work the first day, manager drags him to the warehouse and gives him a broom. Guy complains “Why should I do this, I am a university graduate.”. You see the manager blink, grab the broom back and say “In that case let me teach you how to use that broom”.
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Uhhhhhhhhhhh I was with you up until the eugenics part?
Same pattern as at Tesla
Exact same disregard for rules and worker safety he showed at Tesla. https://revealnews.org/article/tesla-says-its-factory-is-safer-but-it-left-injuries-off-the-books/
That he keeps getting away with this kind of behavior is appalling.
What a visionary
The sycophantic fan peeps will find a way to explain all this as just something geniuses and visionaries do. Lol, the free speech transparency champion is anything but and surrounds himself with yes people.
The locks.
First thought: Triangle Shirtwaist Factory.
Second thought: Ghost Ship warehouse.
“Elimimate all revenue, stiff everybody you owe.”
So fiscal acumen (or rather, the lack thereof) is yet another way Musk shows his Republican tendencies.
Not Much Different
When the government bailed out numerous corporations, a lot of contracts and obligations were voided with the government’s seal of approval. The corps were “too big to fail”, so the law went out the window. Same thing happens with bank bailouts.
If only Twitter had the government’s blessing. What they are doing would be blessed by on high.
In any case, the value of Twitter was pretty imaginary. It was never profitable and continues to burn through cash.
I don’t doubt that they cannot pay their bills and turn a profit. The company is as much vaporware as computer generated money.
Come on, Elon, it’s time to fund a mayoral campaign by Jello Biafra!
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…And yet I think Jello Biafra would have run San Francisco better than Elon Musk is running Twitter.
Abusing bluechecks gets your account locked?
No trust and safety team but abuse one of the little butt-boys who pays $8 and they lock your account now?